Subj : Installing 32
To   : Minh Van Le
From : Richard Webb
Date : Thu May 22 2008 11:33 pm

Hello Minh,

Minh Van Le wrote in a message to Richard Webb:

RW> I'm planning some upgrading in the future here once other
RW> business details are sorted out. THough the bbs is for
RW> hobby activity related to emergency communications and ham
RW> radio it will benefit from these upgrades by being able to
RW> offer telnet access as well as pots. POts will always

MVL> Man you mean you haven't hooked up NetFOSS or Netserial - what have
MVL> you been DOING.

Nope, not on a dial-up internet connection on one line.

MVL> I dunno. Imo using a BBS sounds inappropriate, probably because the
MVL> words "hobby" and "emergency" shouldn't be used close together in a
MVL> sentence.

VOlunteers is more the right word, I object to the "hobby" designation myself.
SHall we just say for volunteer emergency communicators <g>.

RW> remain with binkley as front end with max dos underneath,
RW> but haven't sorted out all the issues yet. Your post brings
RW> up some questions, and I'd like your input.  Remember I'm
MVL> You should have no problems with Maximus/32 if you avoid passing
MVL> connections between separate DOS windows.

SO far so good.

RW> NOt an issue for the pots system with binkleyterm and max
RW> dos as it would be on a separate machine, sharing message
RW> and file areas over the lan.

MVL> Even if you have POTS on a separate PC, if you intend on setting up
MVL> telnettable Maximus you will probably have to use the DOS version
MVL> of Maximus on Windows, at which point it will hog the CPU eg. 30% -
MVL> 50% per active node.

MVL> This is because most free telnet servers (TelSrv, GameSrv, Net2BBS)
MVL> only run on Windows and require a TCP/IP FOSSIL emulator (eg.
MVL> NetFOSS) to connect to the BBS, and only the Maximus DOS binary
MVL> supports FOSSILs.

NIxes that then.  TElnettable and pots would be the ways in.

MVL> If you can afford USD$50 - USD$200 to register virtual
MVL> modems then there's no problem. (Or you can run the Maximus OS/2
MVL> with VMODEM or Linux binaries which are free options. But then you
MVL> will have to use OS/2 and/or Linux. Heh)).

SOUnds like linux is my way to go.  AT least this old blind man can get flavors
of linux that will talk to him using a speech synthesizer <g>.

RW> That might make things interesting, as another machine will
RW> be handling all outside connectivity through dsl. iF that's
RW> workable then max32 might still be an option for me, as I
RW> run no doors at this time. Hence we wouldn't need a fossil
RW> driver nor com port sharing.

MVL> Yeah that will probably work. Atleast the Maximus multinode stuff
MVL> eg. online chat will still work between separate computers
MVL> regardless of connection type (dialup/DSL) because IPC is handling
MVL> the semaphorish exchange between nodes (if the PCs are networked).

I"ll give it some study then, see what happens, but looks like i"ll be running
the lnux executables ,g>.

RW> Trying to get a grasp of the issues I'm going to face
RW> before I end up fishing around in the dark. I"m an old dos
RW> dinosaur that doesn't do windows, but have one machine
RW> running 98 that would be usable for this.

MVL> Well, you can always use modern technology and substitute your
MVL> Maximus BBS for Linux services. Eg. run a PPP and/or TCP/IP
MVL> connected webserver, gopher, nntp server etc. There's Apache for
MVL> Windows and Linux et al. This way you will have no
MVL> technological/software/redundancy problems.

WIll be doing that for the business, linux based probably.


MVL> And people can use their web browsers (!) And you can show pictures
MVL> and/or pornography (!) You can't get all that with a BBS. Plus
MVL> simple html files load fast even at 33.6 kbps.

True enough, but staying with plain text for most displays, it's about the
info, and it's about being able to connect to it with just about anything. IF
all you've got is an old 1200 baud modem it has a landline.  No slow to load
graphics, no hassles with what plug-ins your browser has.

RW> AS I said earlier, I don't run any door games, or anything
RW> else in doorway mode at this time. sUggestions are most
RW> welcome.

MVL> If you don't require FOSSIL compatibility (usually for doors via
MVL> Xtern_* exits) or pass connections between seperate DOS windows,
MVL> then Maximus/32 will probably suffice.

From your discussion above it sounds like the linux executable is my way to go
here. oR running the dos executable on the 98 machine.

MVL> When setting up telnettable Maximus you need to decide between
MVL>   1) suffering CPU performance problems with Maximus/DOS or    2)
MVL> paying for virtual modems to use Maximus/32.
MVL> Else use the Maximus OS/2 or Linux binaries.

I think option 3 sounds like the way to go here <g>.  Have one linux box anyway
that will be networked but have other plans for it.

Thanks for the feedback.


Regards,
          Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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