Subj : synchronet v3 + frontdoor mailer.bat / exebbs.bat
To : mark lewis
From : Roy Witt
Date : Tue Oct 09 2012 08:28 pm
01 Jan 70 00:00, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:
RW>>> Kinda like putting a European echo name into FastEcho. Their
RW>>> tendency to insert a . between two words doesn't always work out
RW>>> like it should.
ml>> it works fine for echotags... however, not all software creates area
ml>> names based on the tags and not all software can handle long
ml>> filenames...
RW>> FE software uses self-generated numbers to define an area and
RW>> filenames, IF it's an auto-added area.
ml> yes... that formula is FE + CRC16 of the TAG, IIRC but i'd have to go
ml> digging to confirm that...
Don't bother. FE is still on my HD, but not in use for more than a robotic
echo posting.
RW>> That makes it awfully hard to find which directory is which when
RW>> you're wanting to look at msgs, etc...
ml> which is why i always go back with the areas.bbs file and fesetup to
ml> rename and move the messages to the new area name...
One can use the NAB's distribution file to import area names.
ml> yes, it is a PITA when there are several dozen to do... try it with
ml> several hundred ;)
I did that when Ross automagically signed me up for every area that he
distributes.
ml> i've done it and it takes a lot of time... especially when
ml> one has to also reconfigure their editor (Frontdoor's FM) and their
ml> BBS for the new areas...
Nice thing about GoldEd, it can use the AREAS.BBS output from FE (and
DB) to do that. I found it interesting that AREAS.BBS can be used to blow
GoldEd's mind by listing MT echoes, when in the process of configing DB.
RW>> I use shortened names to define such directorys. Windows doesn't
RW>> mind a 20 character directory, but a DOS interface will shorten it
RW>> back to an 8.3 name and use a tild followed by a number to define
RW>> the last 9-inf.xxx names. So for convenience of the sysop sake, I
RW>> still use 8 characters for directorys and 8.3 names for files.
ml> as we all do who still use software that doesn't know what a long
ml> filename is ;)
I find it just as convenient to use the tilded name in that regard.
ml>> FWIW: those dots in the area names have their origination in the
ml>> usenet newsgroups formats...
RW>> That figures.
ml>> the dots were seen as directory separators so there was easy
ml>> conversion... i do it here with my JAMbases but am still limited to
ml>> 8.3 lengths for each of them...
ml> that's the way that FIDO message areas were configured at one time,
ml> too... don't let your aversion of NNTP style namings get in the way
ml> ;)
This is why I don't read usenet or fidonet with my email client.
ml> just remember that all it is is directory tree with each dot being
ml> the '\' or '/'... the last one is either a directory fill of "single
ml> message per file" files (akin to MSG) or the last one is a single
ml> file with multiple messages in it...
RW>> Yes, I know that 'special' characters like ~\!,#$%^&*() etc.,
RW>> don't work there.
ml> that depends on the software and the OS...
Those sites that use Linux/Unix specifically state that those characters
aren't welcome in passwords, etc...I think that a line as above would be
the perfect password, depending only on the sequence of those characters
to decipher.
(Note that the first two from the left look like the beginnings of a
six-shooter outline and the ! the smoking barrel)
ml>> MSG areas can also easily use this style...
RW>> I suppose. But that crap's not my style.
ml> over the years, i've found it much nicer to have a directory tree
ml> structure for message storage...
Xtree and Ztree show this type of structure all the time.
R\%/itt
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