Subj : Linux golded
To   : Nick Boel
From : David Gonzalez
Date : Fri Nov 29 2024 09:25 am


  Hello Nick!

29 Nov 24 07:51, you wrote to me:

NB> Hello David,

NB> On Fri, Nov 29 2024 06:42:22 -0600, you wrote:

>> SBBS is not there, as per the path /home/sbbs is $HOME for sbbs
>> user, SBBS lives under /sbbs

NB> This doesn't match the location of your config file below.

>> >> Command 'luit' not found, did you mean:
>> >>    command 'quit' from snap quit (1.0+git)
>> >>    command 'lfit' from deb fitsh (0.9.4-1)
>> >>    command 'lut' from deb tracetuner (3.0.6~beta+dfsg-3)
>> >> See 'snap info <snapname>' for additional versions.
>> >> sbbs@bbs:~$ sudo apt info luit
>> >> Package: luit
>> >> State: not a real package (virtual)
>> >> N: Can't select candidate version from package luit as it has no
>> >> candidate
>> >> N: Can't select versions from package 'luit' as it is purely
>> virtual
>> >> N: No packages found
>> >> sbbs@bbs:~$ sudo apt search luit
>> >> Sorting... Done
>> >> Full Text Search... Done
>> >> xterm/noble,now 390-1ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]
>> >>    X terminal emulator

>> Weird thing and I guess it's Ubuntu's fault here, hwy does it report
>> the package intsalled and then report no such command

NB> Where in the above quoted text does it say "luit is installed"? I see
NB> things like "'luit' not found", "State: not a real package (virtual)",
NB> and "N: No packages found."

Sure, maybe when I dd the search and it resulted on that I isnatlled xterm, my hiccup

NB> The only place it actually says something is installed is
NB> "xterm/noble,now 390-1ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]" but that has nothing
NB> to do with the package "luit".

>> This one worked, like gedlnx by itself with no other viriables or
>> declarations, but I still get wrong key mappings

>> - NETMAIL (4:930/10)
>> ------------------------------------------------ Netmail -
>>  Msg  : 1 of 1              Uns Loc
>>  From : David Gonzalez      4:930/10                        29 Nov
>> 24 07:41:24
>>  To   : hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh                29 Nov
>> 24 07:41:24
>>  Subj :
>> ------------------------------------- F10: Addressbook -- Shift-F10:
>> Nodelist -

>>  NB> TEARLINE @longpid @version
>>  NB> ORIGIN "I'm very new to all this, so please forgive me."

>> Look at my golded.cfg which I've posted before:

>> <sbip>
>> sbbs@bbs:~$ cat golded.cfg

NB> This right here. The "home" directory you speak of above is not
NB> "sbbs", it is "bbs". So try this:

NB> ---------[ THIS ONE ]--------
NB> LANG=es=ES.ISO8859-1 gedlnx -C/home/bbs/golded.cfg
NB> -----------------------------

NB> NOTE: I change the above line to use ISO-8859-1, since every reference
NB> I've seen -2 is used in Central and Eastern Europe, which has nothing
NB> to do with South America. This may fix your key binding issue as well.

NB> You may not be using the correct config file.

>> USERNAME David Gonzalez
>> ADDRESS 4:930/10
>> AREADEF Netmail "NETMAIL" 0 Net OPUS /sbbs/fido/netmail
>> AREAFILE AreasBBS /sbbs/data/areas.bbs

NB> I'm also not sure Synchronet supports OPUS style netmail, so your
NB> "Netmail" areadef probably won't work currectly in this case.

It's justs tests, I've come a long way to try to get synchro to behave as I want, so I'm just testing if golded works, but first I'm trying to figure out how to access my message base from Golded.... problem for another day for now at least netmail is what I want to ghet to work, as you suggest one step at a time.

>> NICKNAME David G.

>> USEPID yes
>> EMPTYTEARLINE no

>> CTRLINFOECHO  TEARLINE, ORIGIN

>> // Your origin lines.
>> ORIGIN "Un BBS Más | sync.skynetbbs.com:10023"
>> TEARLINE @longpid @version

NB> These should display properly if you were actually using this config
NB> file.

One this regarding this:

O pulled the GoldED+ (/home/sbbs/golded-plus) repo -- no changes except mygolded.h -- and compiled my version binaries and everything is where it's su[pposed to be *but* I added ../golded-plus/bin to my $PATH so I can start it from anywhere, maybe that's why my golded.cfg ffile is under my home directory, plus when I first started golded for the first time, I used gedlnx -INSTALL and used that basic config that's where the OPUS Netmail is coming from.

See this:

sbbs@bbs:~$ ls
gedlngus.cfg  golded.cfg  golded.msg   golded.tpl    golduser.lst  simple.cfg
golded.bak    golded.log  golded-plus  goldlast.lst  semaphores    termcap
sbbs@bbs:~$ whoami
sbbs
sbbs@bbs:~$ pwd
/home/sbbs
sbbs@bbs:~$ hostname
bbs
sbbs@bbs:~$

>> So please if you see te offending line, tell me because I do not see
>> those kludge lines you all seem to be seing and my Origin line is
>> also gone... as you can see what you suggested is indeed there.

NB> You are using Golded. As far as I can tell, Golded strips those kludge
NB> lines no matter if you have an origin line or not. However, most other
NB> software doesn't. So basically anyone that is NOT using Golded is
NB> seeing it.

NB> Looks like you might be using a different config file, or one that was
NB> generated by mistake. Try the line I gave above and see if it works
NB> any better for you. As for the key bindings, that could be on the OS
NB> level. We can tackle that after your Golded works a bit better.

This is where I think I'm going wrong... for instance Angel Ripoll and others said they create a bash and I start my golded just like  any other app, so can it happen that golded if I do not start it with -C/home/sbbs/golded.cfg is looking and loading its config from $HOME/golded-plus/bin?.

>> Sorry but I'm confused about this

NB> People are willing to help you out, you just need to pay attention,
NB> and not try to setup 10 different things at once. Focus on getting one
NB> thing right, then move on to the next.

Trust me been there, done that, I've turned all knobs at once and boom!. So for now even if no areas show up, it's fine, I just want to get it to show properly and again mention this happens over ssh eitehr using SecureCRT or PuTTY

NB> I also just noticed that you are accessing your Synchronet message
NB> bases with Golded. So if the above help doesn't work, the next place
NB> you should check is your settings in SCFG > MESSAGE AREAS > FIDONET >
NB> MESSAGE SUB-BOARDS > <any sub board> > NETWORK OPTIONS > APPEND
NB> TAG/ORIGIN LINE = YES, then make sure you have ECHOMAIL ORIGIN LINE
NB> set to what you want it to be, and FIDONET ECHOMAIL = YES.

Yup, I've tried to play around with that but even if areas show on golded when I try sending a message program crashes with file not found, but again, I'm just starting and there's a lot in my plate... I finmally could get synchro to work and I can send/receive read echomail and netmail from within the BBS, but I want to work with golded, I always liked it as message editor, but firts I want to get it to display and work properly.

NB> Regards,
NB> Nick

Thanks and again sorry if you don't see my tearline/origin, this is the windows version and I've redet the golded.cfg many times...

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