Subj : Re: Need volonteers to test another patch
To   : Wilfred van Velzen
From : Vitaliy Aksyonov
Date : Sat Mar 09 2024 12:49 pm

Hello Wilfred.

09 Mar 24 16:57, you wrote to me:

VA>>> OK. Your terminal works in IBM850, but you run golded may try to
VA>>> run in UTF-8. That won't work and it worked before just because
VA>>> golded was not initializing correctly!

WvV>> Ok, so how do I fix it? ;)

WvV> Yesterday I did some experimenting with the latest golded (commit:
WvV> "call setlocale() before initscr() (#86)"), trying different ways to
WvV> start golded and different golded xlat configurations. I found 2
WvV> setups that work for me, so the messages with pseudo graphics in the
WvV> STATS area look ok:

WvV> My golded.cfg for both:

WvV> include charsets.cfg

WvV> XLATIMPORT CP437
WvV> XLATLOCALSET CP850
WvV> XLATEXPORT CP850

Do not use xlatexport cp850. This parameter is used to select charset which will be used when you write messages to message base. Unless you really want cp850. I assume you want to have cp437 there.

XlatImport on other side will use cp437 if message has no CHRS kludge.

WvV> And starting golded in a local Konsole terminal "TERM=xterm" with the
WvV> default charset set to utf-8:

WvV> # sudo -u fido LANG=en_EN.CP850 luit -encoding 'CP850'
WvV> /usr/local/bin/golded -f

If you use luit - than having xterm in UTF-8 is correct.

WvV> And in the same kind of terminal but with the default charset set to
WvV> cp850, this one works:

WvV> # sudo -u fido LANG=en_US.CP850 /usr/local/bin/golded -f

This is correct commandline to if you have your terminal in cp850. Just choose what works better for you. Probably luit and terminal in UTF-8 is most convenient.

WvV> I will still have to test these in a putty terminal later during the
WvV> coming week.

Putty will work fine. Only I suggest you to change terminal type in putty from xterm (they use if by default) to putty or putty-256color. It's in Connection->Data section.

WvV> And messages which have utf-8 characters, like the ones from Michiel
WvV> in the UTF area, don't display properly (of course). I did try adding:

WvV> XLATCHARSET UTF-8 CP850 utf8_850.chs

WvV> But that didn't help. Of course only a small subset of utf-8
WvV> characters can be displayed with cp850...

Golded cannot read from UTF-8. There is no Unicode support. You must use another editor or GoldEd with external editor to work with Unicode.

It may convert from one-byte charsets to UTF-8, but not vise versa.

Vitaliy

... 640K ought to be enough for anybody
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