Subj : topics.. let's hear your ideas.
To   : August Abolins
From : Nil Alexandrov
Date : Thu Apr 04 2019 08:22 pm

Hello, August!

Thursday April 04 2019 01:45, from August Abolins -> Nil Alexandrov:

AA> Regarding Aftershock, can you blame a resourceful programmer to fetch
AA>  "something" for the effort?  <g>  People have the choice to vote with
AA>  their wallet.

It is said that Aftershock is closer to the original Fidonet interface
(whatever it is), whereas HotdgEd is full of features users are happy with.

AA> Regarding HotdogEd, how long has it been out?  The author's site only
AA> seems to document version 2.12 from 2016 as the earliest.

I found the following message with the subject "HotdogEd v1 (beta 1)"
in Russian dated back to 3/21/13,
http://wfido.ru/m/RU.FIDONET.DIGEST/2:5020/849+514b1d29

AA> 2 progs are certainly better than none at this juncture.  ;)  Doesn't
AA>  android have a bigger demographic/userbase than iOS?

Android has definitely cheaper options but previous iOS models are well
discounted as well.

AA> Regarding no apps available for iOS, maybe development for that is
AA> more  complicated?  Maybe the right person needs to have the time and
AA> the fire  to tackle the project.

One of the reason we don't have the iOS app is that it requires the $100
developer license fee per year (such a showstopper) in order to install
the app on your device.

AA> Ya.. right out of the gate, programs/apps can be quite "ordinary".  In
AA>  time and with user input, the UI can be improved.

Which may help to target the ordinary users to join out party.

AA> The HotdogEd author seems to do a very faithful job in providing the
AA> documentation and installation steps.  A community of users can help
AA> each  other too.

Unfortunately, he's stepped away from the development due to the "real job"
schedule recently, and the true open source spirit is not picking up.

NA>> 80x25 textmode messages browsing.
AA> Noted!  The trend *has* been larger screens for the handheld devices.
AA> I  tried a simple newsgroup reader on my iPod several years ago and
AA> wondered  "how is this even practical?"  The iPod 2nd, 3rd and even
AA> 4th Gen screen  is way too small for frequent message editing.  But..
AA> the tablets (even  with external keyboards) can be quite workable.

So it might be the particular format belong to its era and it's hard to
resurrect in different environment.

AA> Sync seems to be promoted heavily in other applications like Mozilla
AA> (bookmarks, history, tabs, passwords) across all of the devices you
AA> might  use.  I wouldn't be surprised if a sync solution for fidonet
AA> emerged out  of the resourceful folks in R50 or its neighbors.

It's an interesting phenomenon here in R50, that we have mostly the full
spectrum of ages presented in our Fidonet segment according to the recent
census. How do we get young folks? Most are .curious., some of them are
the kids of the old sysops. The thing is that they possess multiple gadgets
so the matter of synching across them becomes natural.

Nil
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