Subj : Re: macOS 26
To   : jimmylogan
From : tenser
Date : Tue Oct 07 2025 01:19 am

On 04 Oct 2025 at 04:20p, jimmylogan pondered and said...

ji> -=> tenser wrote to apam <=-
ji>
ji>  te> On 23 Sep 2025 at 01:25a, apam pondered and said...
ji>
ji>  ap> Still, for those who use a lot of opensource stuff, I would say they
ji>  ap> would be resonably tech savvy, so all you need to do when you want to
ji>  ap> allow a non signed app to run on your mac is go into privacy and secu
ji>  ap> in settings and click "Run anyway" and then enter your password. Then
ji>  ap> it's marked as allowed and you can run it as normal - at least until
ji>  ap> update it.
ji>
ji>  te> That is sort of annoying.  For a lot of the command-line-y type stuff
ji>  te> I run, homebrew does me well, however, without all the hassle.
ji>
ji> It sounds annoying, for sure, but only because the 'approved'
ji> stuff just works. I sue homebrew as well for a lot of stuff. :-)

The intent is to cut down on surface area for security
vulnerabilities, and for that, requiring signed apps is
useful, even if imperfect: at least you have a provable
chain of provenance.

The extra hoop you have to jump through to run other
applications is tedious, but deliberate: it adds just
enough friction to the process that casual users aren't
generally going to be duped into running malware.  But
I do wish Apple would build in some knobs for power
users so that one could tweak that stuff.  I get why
they don't, but still...one can wish.

ji>  te> Linux is ... ok.  It's got a huge amount of mind share behind it, but
ji>  te> I don't think it's all that great.  The kernel is complex and bloated
ji>  te> and while some parts of it are very, very good, other parts of just
ji>  te> plain bad.  The overall experience of using it gives the impression
ji>  te> that it works best on the developers' laptops.
ji>
ji> I think Linux is GREAT for getting use out of old hardware

I think this mistakes utility for quality.  Keeping old
hardware out of landfills is great, and Linux is wonderful
for that; but that doesn't mean that the implementation is
of uniformly high quality.  As a kernel, it's so-so.

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