Subj : Re: New to this
To : Cougar428
From : boraxman
Date : Sun Apr 27 2025 07:04 pm
-=> Cougar428 wrote to DMXROB <=-
-=> Quoting Dmxrob to Boraxman <=-
Dm> BY: boraxman (21:1/101)
Dm> On Saturday,April 19, 2025 at 10:53 AM, Boraxman (21:1/101) wrote:
b> My mum is a Boomer, and she said people can just "Scrimp and Save" like
b> she did. I asked her how long it took to pay off the mortgage. We grew
Dm> As someone who is "older" now (50s) statements like that piss me off.
Dm> It is amazing how people 20 years older than I am think the world
Dm> hasn't changed since 1955. They don't realize, or want to
Dm> acknowledge, how many government programs and aid they had in their
Dm> day, compared to what Gen X and beyond got - which was squat.
Co> I shouldn't - but I will.
Co> I am "older" (almost 70). It's not that I think the world hasn't
Co> changed since 1955, I tend to think more along the lines that the
Co> peole
Co> have changed.
Co> I don't think I have ever received any government assistance other
Co> than
Co> unemployment when I was out of work temorarily. I worked at a minimum
Co> wage job and was married with a child, but did not get food stamps.
Co> My attitude has always been that if I didn't need assistance, I
Co> wouldn't take it. I was raised to believe that assistance was for
Co> those
Co> who were unable to make it on their own. I am a veteran but don't take
Co> advantage of free offers for that group as I don't need them. Some
Co> folks do, and that's alright.
Co> Younger people (not sure about gen-whatever), seem to feel entitled to
Co> any and all assistance as if it's normal to get something for nothing.
Dm> This attitude nowadays of "I got mine, and screw you" is prevelant
Dm> with so many people of that generation, and others. They feel the
Dm> younger generation should shoulder all the burden of society and taxes
Dm> while they amass even more wealth.
Co> My attitude is more in line with I worked my whole life to get mine
Co> and
Co> you should probably work hard to make a life for yourself. Every young
Co> generation shoulders it's own burden. Not the burden of society. And I
Co> imagine alot of us 'boomers' have amassed wealth in the millions
Co> (not).
Co> You make it sound as if all people are greedy nasty bastards. Believe
Co> it or not - I wish the best for all the young generation. They are the
Co> future and I for one am proud they are going to make it on their own.
Dm> I'm very much against that, and
Dm> believe that EVERYONE - I don't care your age - should pay in to
Dm> taxes, etc. I don't support "senior tax freeze" nonsense. Why should
Dm> young families have to "scrimp" to pay for services you are using
Dm> while you have more than enough assets to pay for own?
Co> I agree with you, everyone SHOULD pay taxes. Some people are
Co> misinformed as to who actually does pay taxes. We ALL do.
Co> You make it out as EVERYONE didn't have to scrimp to pay for services
Co> that they used? You make me feel like an ogre since I worked for
Co> 50 years and saved my money so I could pay my bills after I have
Co> finished my working life. I'm here to tell you, we're not all
Co> millionaires.
Co> Apologies - guess I'm the one ranting now, or so it sounds to me.
I do see where you are coming from. To clarify, I'm a dad, have a
family, kids I own my home. I have a decent job (in theory). I sort
of "made it". Sort of.
See, I only *just* scraped into getting a home, and that was largely
in part due to coming into significant money that I inherited. I was
priced out of where I grew. Looking at the prospects for me children,
they appear utterly dire. The city has changed *dramatically* since I
was young. I just came back from there, and now I'm a minority!
Again! I wish I could say my children will be better off, but they
won't be. And you know what, I'm old enough now to compare my adult
life now, with my adult life when I was in my early 20s, and *despite*
moving to a better position, becoming a leader, I'm worse off. And
all my peers are seeing the same.
Things are going down. Its palpable. My wife knows it. My friends,
her friends. Most parents see it. Parents I talkt to at work, my age
cohort, see it. Ther eis this sense we are being pushed off a
cliff. That was not the case when my parents were young. Its
something bigger, deeper. When I have to turn away job interviews for
managerial roles, because I can't afford to move, things are dire.
