Subj : Re: New to this
To : boraxman
From : Gamgee
Date : Mon Apr 21 2025 08:06 pm
-=> boraxman wrote to StormTrooper <=-
St> One of the problems is, where we went from having an undersupply of
St> grads and the education itself was the hurdle, there were plenty of
St> positions to go round. Now here at least, we had about 30 years of
St> feed everyone you can into that education mill, just having the degree
St> or whatever it might be is no longer enough on its own. You're back to
St> it being an absolute minimum and experience with the work and a work
St> environment have become more imortant in thinning the applicants out.
bo> Technically, you need a science degree to do my job, but I reckon 95%
bo> of it can be done without one, and the other 5% you could muddle
bo> through without it or just research on the go. I definately don't need
bo> the entire degree to do this.
bo> Same with programming, I learned it myself, and see people with degrees
bo> who struggle to do what I taught myself. Degrees are overrated.
No doubt that *sometimes* degrees are very overrated. But there are
some jobs that you CANNOT do the required work without that degree (and
even advanced degrees), because you simply would not understand the job.
Those kind of jobs can't be faked. I'm talking about things like
nuclear work, physics, chemistry, some medical work, and more. You
can't learn some things "on the fly" or with OJT. Another example of
when a degree is required is when the employer won't even consider you
unless you have that "credential", regardless of actual knowledge or
experience.
In the end, I think it's self-regulating. People with useless degrees
end up in jobs that don't require a degree. People with no degree
sometimes hit the right combination and make it big. People with
"trades" skills often make much more money than many "degreed" jobs.
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