Subj : Re: food fite
To   : Digital Man
From : fusion
Date : Fri Jul 05 2024 03:56 am

On 03 Jul 2024, Digital Man said the following...
DM> Nope, those pipe functions are *not* present in the supported functions
DM> of MS-DOS v4.
DM>
DM> And indeed, from your linked reference:
DM> "This function was introduced by LAN Manager but is also supported by the
DM> Novell DOS Named Pipe Extender, Banyan VINES, OS/2 Virtual DOS Machines,
DM> and others" not [MS/PC]-DOS.

Yes, so are you mad I didn't preface that with "You could install LAN Manager Client for DOS, Novell network support and use DOSNP.EXE or run inside a VDM using named pipes" ?

First paragraph of https://helparchive.huntertur.net/document/61238  :

"The Communications Server MS-DOS and OS/2 clients use named
pipe connections to communicate with OS/2-based Communications Server computers."

A problem someone was having with named pipes in MS-DOS with DOS LAN Manager

https://library.thedatadungeon.com/msdn-1992-09/kbase/html/kbas5c4h.htm

And a problem using named pipes with Windows 3.11 (interesting symptom for a DOS machine to have)

https://jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/119/Q119106/

And the manual for MS SQL states the DOS client support uses named pipes too, using a TSR like the Novell one does. I can't find the link anymore but I'm guessing that's why they added those functions to the NTVDM in the first
place (they mentioned it was for DOS Point-of-Sale software).

.. and in any case, you said "DOS programs" don't support named pipes. If you want to say that it isn't technically a DOS program if it uses interrupts
that aren't supported on a plain install of MS-DOS 4, well, sure:

DM> <grabs his MS-DOS programmers guide>
DM>
DM> Nope, those pipe functions are *not* present in the supported functions
DM> of MS-DOS v4.

MS-DOS 4 also didn't come with DPMI support. It didn't exist yet.. are those
DOS programs or nah? :)

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