Subj : Re: FidoNews submission
To   : Michiel van der Vlist
From : Dan Clough
Date : Fri May 30 2025 08:38 pm

-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-

MvV>> But what happened to hat pioneer spirit that once made Fidonet
MvV>> great? Fidonet sysops were always eager to try out new technology.
MvV>> so what is stopping you from giving IPv6 a try? It isn't really hard
MvV>> once you get the hang of it. Why not give it a try? Just for the fun
MvV>> of it?

DC> My ISP doesn't offer me IPv6.

MvV> And you are stuck with them? If so I do not envy you. Here I have a
MvV> choice between over a dozen providers distributed over three fysical
MvV> media. Nearly all of them offer native IPv6.

Yes, it is the only realistic option I have.  Not uncommon in the USA as
far as I know.  Cable/broadband companies often have their "territory"
and they are the only provider in that area.

DC> I'm not interested in putzing around to get some "workaround" tunnel
DC> thing working.

MvV> I have played around with tunnels before I got native IPv6 now nearly a
MvV> decade ago. It was fun and an interesting experience.

I like playing with lots of things, but that doesn't interest me in the
slightest.

DC> Don't have time for such silliness, and there is no "fun of it" for
DC> me, as I'm just not interested in something which isn't a problem for
DC> me.

MvV> If you are no longer interested in trying out new things that seem to
MvV> have no obvious purpose at first glance, why are you still in Fidonet?
MvV> Fidonet is like a shipping company without passengers or cargo. But we
MvV> just keep the ships running for the fun of it. It serves no real
MvV> purpose any more.

Well, that may be your opinion.  It serves purposes for me.  I enjoy the
configuration of FTN software, updating/customizing the BBS, and reading
echomail traffic.  I mean, we are having this very conversation on
FidoNet, aren't we?

MvV>> You are welcome to join the IPv6 echo where you can get all the
MvV>> help you need from the IPv6 gurus in Fidonet.

DC> Yes, I read the echo.  Seems to be mostly a self-congratulatory
DC> meeting place of mutual celebration/masturbation,

MvV> Like most of Fidonet...

Not really, it's quite different from most as far as I can see.  I mean,
what "real purpose" does it serve?  Just a way for folks to congratulate
each other on having an IPv6 address?  LOL  Very silly.



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