Subj : Russia and Ukraine
To : Alan Ianson
From : alexander koryagin
Date : Mon May 30 2022 10:55 am
Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 28.05.2022 09:53
AI>>> What is this peaceful variant of resistance you speak of?
ak>> Well it easy -- western economic sanctions are a 20 times more
ak>> effective weapon than the resistance of the Ukrainian good-for-
ak>> nothing troops dug down in civil areas and towns
AI> Sanctions are not a weapon. They are a reaction to the Russian
AI> invasion of Ukraine. If Russia had not done that there would be no
AI> sanctions. The same is true of the sanctions imposed after Russia
AI> originally invaded Ukraine some years back although those sanctions
AI> were on a much smaller scale.
Even a word in mass-media is a weapon. Russia has got under sanctions
because it lost an information war. And many have believed that Russia
is guilty in everything, however there are many of those who must share
the blame, whose policy has been not less reckless than Putin's.
ak>> -- the main cause of numeral deaths of civilians in Ukraine. Also
ak>> these bastards prohibit civilians to leave the towns under an
ak>> attack. It is a well known fact. Russian people in such towns are
ak>> used as a living shield of the Ukrainian army.
AI> You've been watching to much Russian state TV, you should stop
AI> that. It is not doing you any good.
Just tell me - who resists civilians to leave a Ukrainian town under
siege? Russian troops?
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ak>> Not money, but concessions -- it just should to stop its
ak>> nationalistic policy towards the Russian-speaking population in
ak>> Ukraine, to give an autonomy to Russian-speaking regions. It was
ak>> realistic.
AI> So we are back at concessions again? What concessions do you
AI> imagine Ukraine should offer to you, so that you don't break their
AI> bones?
If a person is an idiot, deaf and hate you -- you can speak to him even
for 8 years without result. So it was with Ukrainian politicians.
AI>>> The Donbass is Ukrainian territory. How do you imagine that
AI>>> Ukraine blockaded it?
ak>> By tanks and military of course.
AI> Yes, of course. How and why do you imagine that Ukraine blockaded
AI> their own territory?
It blockaded the living people who were against the Kiev 2014 coup. And
such a reaction was predictable. Yanukovich had been an elected
President, it meant that more than a half of Ukraine (without Crimea)
supported him.
ak>> Well, the main task for the West now is to carry out the Ukrainian
ak>> grain out of the country.
AI> You are not making any sense. It is not a task of the west to carry
AI> anything out of Ukraine. It never was.
ak>> The declared aim is to feed the world population.
AI> Nothing has been declared. The Russian blockade of Ukraine's
AI> exports creates a world food shortage, among other things.
It is a poor propaganda that Russian navy doesn't allow Ukrainian or
other ships to carry grain from Ukraine. There is no sense in that, more
of that -- all Ukrainian ports are mined by Ukraine itself.
ak>> Russia is also participate in the process --
AI> Yes, Russia participated in the theft of this grain from Ukraine.
AI> Russia is the largest producer of grain in the world. If it wanted
AI> to help any country it could ship it's grain to them itself.
Yes, it can provide the world with its own grain. I think the scale of
so called theft should be checked -- after Russia had built the Crimean
bridge and the highway from Kerch to Sevastopol it can be logical to
carry the grain from Russia's Kuban region to Sevastopol port by land.
So the grain shown in that CNN report could be Russian.
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Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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