Subj : Thoughts and Musings
To : ALEXANDER KORYAGIN
From : BOB KLAHN
Date : Thu Dec 04 2014 01:09 am
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BK>>>>>> that be considered the dividing line between programming and
BK>>>>>> artificial intelligence?
AK>>> Suppose you have two logical tasks. They can be done both by a
AK>>> human or a robot. The dividing line that exists between a human
AK>>> and robot lies not in the logic. A live being can feel happiness,
AK>>> emotions, love -- in short things that cannot be programmed or
AK>>> defined as an algorithm.
BK>> I don't know whether or not they could someday be programmed,
BK>> however, I do see where an artificial intelligence could be a
BK>> sociopath.
AK> Robot will never enjoy to kill humans. But it can be
AK> erroneously programed and make mistakes. For instance, in
Or be programmed that way deliberately.
AK> its program there can be stated that if someones kill
AK> people by thousands they are terrorists and must be killed.
AK> And this robot can make a mistake and kill a pack of
AK> American soldiers. ;-) Or a robot can decide erroneously
AK> that the country under the nuclear attack and start a
AK> nuclear war. But all this have nothing to do with bad
AK> behavior or evil intelligence of the robot.
That was the thinking behind the movie "War Games".
AK> Intelligence cannot be evil. Human feelings can.
Intelligence alone has no motivation.
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AK>>> feelings never will be programmed in robots. Because the
BK>> If you programmed the responses to mimic human feelings to the
BK>> point where no one could tell the difference, would there be a
BK>> difference?
AK> If a wax copy of a human resembles him very much -- does it
AK> mean that there is no difference? If this wax puppet move
AK> its brows and lips will it make it more human? No, of
AK> course.
The question is, if you can't tell the difference, can you say
there is a difference.
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BK>> That is why I am musing on the questions. We do not know much about
BK>> it, thus how do we judge it?
AK> There are some great mystical facts that cannot be either
AK> explained or understood by humans. For instance, human
Cannot yet... but Evolution is still working.
AK> cannot explain eternity and eternal things. A human thinks
Give us enough time and we will see what happens.
AK> that there must be the beginning, and in the same time he
AK> affirms constantly that every form of matter is born by
AK> another form of matter.
Ah, we contradict ourselves in our certainty. True.
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BK>> Not yet. Does intelligence require awareness of self?
AK> No it doesn't. Every computer program can be called an
AK> intelligent object.
Some I have worked on have been called a lot worse than that.
BK>> All that I don't believe anyone knows, but a lot of self anointed
BK>> philosophers will proclaim their truths as if they were truths.
AK> It seems to me that many good philosophers just conjectured
AK> things.
I agree.
BOB KLAHN
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