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Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
> "VanguardLH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> Snuffy McKinney wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I know this is for XP -- can't find any other groups on older
>>> OS's.
>>
>> microsoft.public.win2000.general
>> alt.os.windows2000
>>
>>> Anyone recommend a browser for Win 2000 more functional than IE6 or
>>> Firefox 12.
>>
>> Google Chrome
>> https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=en
>> Only goes back to Windows XP, and only until the end of this year when
>> Google will discard support for Windows XP.  I suspect when Google drops
>> Windows XP that other web browsers will, too.
>>
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-no-longer-works-windows-2000
>> Yep, Mozilla dropped support for Windows 2000 so all you can use are
>> their really old versions.  Firefox 12 is about 2-1/2 years old.  Of
>> course, Windows 2000 is over 15 years old with mainstream support dead
>> 10 years ago and extended support dead 5 years ago.
>>
>> As to finding web browsers that claim they still support Windows 2000:
>>
>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements
>> That says SeaMonkey still supports Windows 2000.
>>
>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Browsers/Maxthon-3.shtml
>> Could not find system requirements for Maxthon Cloud or even their older
>> versions at the Maxthon site other than supports [all] versions of
>> Windows (which is not true since 9x-based versions of Windows are not
>> included).  There is a wiki for Maxthon but it has not been updated for
>> 6 years.  The following download site says Windows 2000 is supported:
>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Browsers/Maxthon-3.shtml.
>>
>> http://www.avantbrowser.com/support.aspx#systemreq
>> Says it supports all the way back to Windows NT (probably means NT 4).
>>
>> Just because web browsers support Windows 2000 doesn't mean sites will
>> accept connections from those web browsers.  Rather than test a web
>> browsing client for its capabilities, many sites still use the User
>> Agent string sent by the web browser to determine if the site will work
>> with that web browser.  Sites will often list only a certain range of
>> web browsers and their versions by looking at the UA string sent by the
>> client.  If the client's UA string isn't in their list, they may limit
>> or restrict access to their site.  I don't know what UA string is sent
>> by Maxthon or Avant Browser.  Those clients might have their own UA
>> string or they might send a UA string representing an old version of IE
>> or Firefox (or for whichever rendering engine is in use at the time).
>> There are add-ons (for some web browsers) that lets you send a different
>> UA string to lie to sites that use the UA string to determine if they
>> allow your web browser to [fully] use their site; however, lying about
>> which web browser connected to them will not magically create functions
>> that are missing in your client that a site may rely upon.
>
> Thanks VLH!!  Very much appreciated.  This will be a stopgap measure to keep
their computer going unitl I can find the simplest way to get them upgraded
with only non-technical people around to help.  "Put plug A into slot B",
etc...  This is actually the way computers should work for everyone.
>
> Especially as times goes on, average folks are getting less and less
technically savvy.  In the old timey days when folks lived on farms, they could
do everything themselves. Now if someone pulls a sock into the vacuum cleaner
it goes to the repair shop.
>
>

Just as a reality check.
I'm happily using SeaMonkey 2.26.1 on WinXP Pro SP3 .
I've never bothered to play with the UA string.

I recommend following discussion of the last couple of SeaMonkey
releases on mozilla.support.seamonkey (server is
news.mozilla.org). I've noticed some grumbling about glitches in
last couple of releases - I've not followed it closely as I'm
obviously not one needing the "latest and greatest" doodads ;)

P.S. I was born when rationing was current events.


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