Subj : SR13
To   : Nick Andre
From : mark lewis
Date : Tue Jun 20 2017 03:18 pm

On 2017 Jun 20 14:00:22, you wrote to me:

ML>> it supports the MSG message base format... in sbbsecho only but it is
ML>> there and not really configurable other than maybe defining the
ML>> directory to use. sbbsecho uses it to communicate with other
ML>> non-mailer software, too... interbbs games have to use MSG format as
ML>> they don't know BSO and can't make FTN PKTs... this is also how
ML>> sbbsecho communicates with non-BSO mailers... could probably also
ML>> make it directly compatible with dB... problem is how m folks are
ML>> still using a non-BSO mailer these days... DM did ask for some
ML>> volunteers with non-BSO mailers to please test the new code but no
ML>> one responded...

NA> Many people in Fido and Othernets are using DB. I don't collect stats,
NA> but its being used with all sorts of BBS software. Someone in this
NA> echo a few years ago wrote a comprehensive guide to D'Bridge on Linux
NA> with SBBS. I know it can work with it, just probably a lot of messing
NA> around with SBBSECHO.

sbbsecho has been rewritten since then...

NA> I did reply to a SBBS developer, Stephen somebody, I forget the
NA> name... sometime I believe it was 2 years ago about this. I was asked
NA> if I could contribute or help with the code for SBBSECHO and perhaps
NA> integrate DB directly. I was told a story about how the code was a
NA> mess, it was always something that seemed "tacked on" and was never
NA> really satisfactory.

yeah, that was the old original sbbsecho that was written by someone else and
then eventually adopted into the sbbs repo... since then it has basically sat
with a few modifications and updates but nothing really major... then it was
decided to rewrite it... now there's more logging and it is easier to see
things happening and figure out config problems... MSG is still used in the
"middle" for at least netmail... that's how allfix and other tools interact...
i'm guessing that they use the same MSG directory that sbbsecho uses... i know
there's an option, or there was, to import local netmail... basically netmail
that someone wrote to another user on the same system... it would get exported
and then needed to be imported back to the destination user's account...
there's also an option to not delete unknown netmails so that tools like allfix
and interbbs doors can run through them looking for their inbound netmails for
processing...

NA> I replied very politely and said I was not able to share the entire
NA> source code for DB but would be happy to contribute code snippets for
NA> packet handling, Queue, mail sessions etc. Anything they needed out of
NA> DB I was prepared to share or discuss... but I'm not handing over the
NA> entire code.

NA> Crickets chirping after that.

i doubt they would want the entire code base :)  but yeah, i hear ya... you do
have quite a bit of documentation about it, though... i remember reading it a
while back... especially the queue stuff... i think as long as MSG is still in
use, they should still work together... the question is if sbbsecho needs some
more work for MSG mailers or not... with the new rewrite, it may...

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