Subj : BBS Promotion
To   : Nicholas Boel
From : mark lewis
Date : Sat Feb 11 2017 09:33 am

On 2017 Feb 10 21:55:14, you wrote to me:

NB>>> You say potato, etc..

ml>> yes and no... it is really easy to understand though...

NB> I understand it just fine, though you seem to want to continue to teach me
NB> something I already know. :)

some of the things you say seem to indicate that you don't actually know some
things... it is easier for me to just go ahead and do it in the one post rather
than pulling hen's teeth going back and forth asking and answering questions...

ml>> of course not... their glyphs are different than latin glyphs... this
ml>> is really simple when looking at the old school way... there are

NB> Therein lies the problem from my standpoint. I've used CP437 (and
NB> still do when it comes to the BBS itself) and all it's limitations.
NB> Besides displaying ANSI graphics on my BBS to callers using ANSI
NB> capable terminal programs, I'm over the "old school way" when it comes
NB> to messaging. There should be no limitations whatsoever. One should be
NB> able to read and write whatever they desire. I went ahead and made
NB> that possible for myself. If others don't care to do so, that's their
NB> choice.

agreed... and to coin a phrase, "but don't go shoving your religion down
other's throats"**... as long as it is readable on other systems that are still
saddled with CP437, great... more power to ya... not everyone runs linux or
winwhatever... hell, there's even some old commie and apple boards coming
back... they have also been fidonet members in the past and carried fidonet on
those systems... if one wants to communicate with the widest dispersal, they
need to use the lowest common denominator...


** that's not about you, not aimed at you, and "you" is all inclusive, not
singular... "religion" could be OS, GUI, BBS package, mail tosser, character
set, politics, morals, or even genitals...

ml>> because it depends also on what his OS can display... what i mean by
ml>> this is that he has to be able to load the OS with the needed code
ml>> page to view them correctly but if he does that, he'll lose all the
ml>> normal latin glyphs... switching to UTF-8 on the OS will alleviate

NB> In this case (as well as many others) I don't think the OS has
NB> anything to do with it. He's using Windows 10, which has the
NB> capabilities to use anything he would be so inclinded to use for his
NB> own purposes. It's the antique FTN software that is holding people
NB> back.

antiques are valuable... especially when they dwindle to fewer and fewer which
drives their value even higher...

NB> A lot of people choose to move on with their OS as they are released,
NB> but then get upset when their software from the 80s doesn't continue
NB> to work. Had the developers of that 80s software still been around
NB> today, they would have and could have updated it to reflect new
NB> technology in modern OSes.

those people are still around... they left fidonet because of all the politics,
in-fighting, and other general BS with others telling them /how/ to do what
they were doing... some left for $$$ too...

NB> With that said, I don't fault anyone for using what they choose to
NB> use. Whatever floats your boat and works best for you, by all means
NB> stick with it. However, I've chosen to make changes in order to
NB> accomplish things I've wanted to accomplish, and am okay with the fact
NB> that it may or may not work on other's systems.

that's fine... remember, there was no attack against you...

BTW: what's going on with that proposal? were you able to get the last version
from stephen off his HD instead of the last posted one? netmail reply is
fine... just drop it off at my boss node, /12, addressed to this point... or
route it the whole way... either way is fine by me...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it
wrong...
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