Subj : %HELP ?
To   : Nicholas Boel
From : mark lewis
Date : Sat Jan 21 2017 09:24 am


On 2017 Jan 21 07:34:38, you wrote to me:

NB>>> If it took you two or three days to search for and find the "misc"
NB>>> directory under HPT's (and HTICK's for that matter) root directory,

ml>> why would i look in there? it isn't a misc file... a document or
ml>> config file, sure but not misc...

NB> Sysop documentation happens to be in the "doc" subdirectory.
NB> Configuration files happen to be in the "config" subdirectory. And
NB> since you've already gone through both of those after install,

i did not... i didn't go through them until i went looking for the areafix help
file...

NB> why not check out the "misc" directory? I would definitely consider
NB> areafix.hlp/filefix.hlp a miscellaneous file. It's not sysop
NB> documentation so I wouldn't put it with the other sysop documentation
NB> in the "doc" directory, it's a document for the user, to be placed
NB> wherever you want it to be, hence a "misc" file.

i consider the help files to be documentation because they are the
documentation for the remote systems to use when requesting help for areafix
and filefix...

NB> And if I remember right, you have to actually specify the location of
NB> the areafix.hlp/filefix.hlp in your robots sections in the main
NB> fidoconfig file, which means it's not hardcoded and can be located
NB> anywhere, hence the miscellaneous part. *shrug*

i think there is that but if make install places the sample configs then it can
also place the help files *shrug*

NB>>> then I suspect PEBCAK rather than the program itself. Where would
NB>>> you expect it to be otherwise?

ml>> after running make install i would expect to find it installed along
ml>> with the binaries and sample configs... but that's not what happened
ml>> for either of the help files or the sample configs... i had to find a
ml>> way to generate a config file to even get started... in that case i
ml>> found and used fidoInst by Zano and butchered that config into my
ml>> working copy...

NB> I can agree with the config files. After 'make install' some default
NB> templates should probably be put into a proper place, since the config
NB> directory is specified in huskymak.cfg for a reason. But this doesn't
NB> happen.

NB> The code is freely available to do whatever you want with it, though.

you and i are a lot alike in many respects, nick... like you, i'm not a 'make'
or 'c' guru...

NB>>> And now to try to bring us back to the original topic in the
NB>>> DBRIDGE echo, It was requested that DB have a help screen for
NB>>> users trying to access Areafix, and now it does as of the latest
NB>>> update. I'd call that a success!

ml>> it is a success... no one is disputing that :)

NB> Instead of pointing that out, the first things mentioned after the fact
was
NB> what DB's areafix was lacking compared to other tosser's areafixes. Nick
NB> has already stated he's not going to add in all the fluff that other
NB> tossers have added in over the years, so why beat a dead horse?

i didn't do that pointing... someone else did so don't include me in it...

)\/(ark

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