Subj : Echomail could use a landing page
To : Charles Pierson
From : August Abolins
Date : Thu Nov 19 2020 01:42 am
Hello Charles!
** On Wednesday 18.11.20 - 23:31, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:
CP> I deleted everything else for simplicity.
As will I! Good idea. ;)
CP> The focus of your posts has been seemingly Google search and landing page
CP> to explain echos, BBS, and the like.
Sort of. The landing page would be a kind of LIST of available
echos for Telegram users. Added to that could be links to
other information. HOW people get there is not exclusive to
google. It would be up to existing users/sysops and even
moderators to get the word out. Over time, as more people
visit the landing page a google prioritizes the results and
makes the page more relevent thus making the effort to find
fidonet echos suitable for Telegram easier.
CP> I've been saying you need something before that to get people to the
CP> point of even knowing what to search for.
True. Start talking. ;) As you may or may not notice, I have
included some info in my Origin line space. That is another
kind of "start".
CP> Going through your reply here, you finally acknowledged that you need to
CP> get the word out so people know what to search for. That's all that I've
CP> been saying.
Great. We agree. Whew! That was going rough for a bit. ;)
CP> So we're mostly on the same page, but the focus was different. Good.
The landing page was just another approach to advertise and
inform. It was primarily inspired by the books2read link you
provided (I will not provide the link to keep Fidonet
"distinct" from the web). ;)
CP> Again, my point is How do you join an echo without having learned about
CP> BBSes and echo's first?
From observing how people use their devices, they are not
going to first install Telnet software to visit a BBS that may
or may not have the "message boards" as they would call them.
That is what you are proposing should be done, first.
However, I am proposing to tell people to join Telegram and
utilize the invite links to reach new "message boards" that
are not inundated with ads, trackers and the stuff like that.
And...they can do this from the phones that they are holding
in their hands right now. Just three steps. [1] install
Telegram if not already, [2] select invite link [3] start
messaging. The rest is discovered in community.
CP> I'm not actually disagreeing with you. I'm just focused more on the fact
CP> that people need to learn about it's existence than on a nice looking web
CP> page for them to find when they have learned enough to search for more
CP> information.
Gotcha. But I think we are repeating ourselves. Promote,
advertise any way you can.
CP> Maybe once they learn about it, they experience some echo conversations
CP> through Telegram. Maybe the get introduced through a BBS's Web Interface,
CP> maybe something else that hasn't been thought of yet.
Yes.. the discovery process begins for the user.
As for "something else that hasn't been thought of yet".. I am
not sure some sysops even want anything new beyond what they
know. (That's my reference to the reaction Telegram is having
on select few people.)
CP> But the simple fact of the matter is that you have to find a way to get
CP> people interested, or the rest of it is an exercise in futility.
I think I can stir up interest on my side. The sysops need
all the help they can get if they enjoy seeing users
discovering echomail.
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