Subj : nntp readers, echomail timing, echomail as rss feeds
To : August Abolins
From : Charles Pierson
Date : Thu Oct 15 2020 02:10 pm
Hello, August Abolins.
On 10/15/20 8:55 PM you wrote:
CP>> If successful, Theoretically I would have 6 connections to this
CP>> Echo/Group, not including any BBSes I might log on to testing out
CP>> Telnet clients.
AA> Nothing wrong with that. You're experimenting to see what might be
AA> a better solution.
Basically, yes. But it's also just a pure "what's out there" kind of thing.
CP>> Unfortunately, perhaps, my knack for finding issues, which has
CP>> worked for me in past careers, is working against me.
AA> You're encountering new things and they behave with some
AA> puzzlement. Not all puzzles are easily solved.
At this juncture, it's more frustration than puzzlement. Other than Stas's bot, none of it is particularly new, and should work. Unless I'm the first person in years of the programs being around to run into the issues I have. Which honestly is highly unlikely.
CP>> ...Another Android NNTP reader, which I sent the original message
CP>> out through, has yet to show any inbound messages.
AA> The one you posted using a new Android reader got delivered. But
AA> are you saying that the same echo content is not showing up in
AA> that reader when you connecting to the SAME bbs?
Exactly. I use that exclusively for rbb.fidonet.fi .
While there hasn't been a lot of traffic in 12 hours or so, there has been some.
CP>> Another connection, the Veleno BBS's Web Point system, isn't
CP>> really Phone/Tablet friendly, but I've managed to access it. But
CP>> although I have managed to successfully send out a couple of
CP>> netmails, nothing I've sent to echos has arrived, nor have any
CP>> messages arrived from those echoes.
AA> Messages into and out of Veleno (based in Italy) seem to be
AA> unpredictable in timing. Maybe things operate at a much slower
AA> pace in that country.
That's possible, but odd that you are receiving something, but I'm not.
CP>> My Z4 point, I gave myself a problem with. HotdogEd has a known
CP>> bug which can hang some packets in memory somewhere, and keep
CP>> tossing those messages out.
AA> That's a great find! So.. your efforts are not totally fruitless.
AA> If that was me, the bug would annoy me. But you do have other
AA> options.
The bug is a known bug, that hasn't been addressed. The solutions for a work around come from the FAQ.
It's annoying, but there are only 2-3 messages involved. So it's not a major problem.
CP>> While going through the suggested steps to clear it, without
CP>> rooting my phone, I accidentally managed to unlink from most
CP>> echos without realizing.
AA> That's not so good. BUT, now you know what you did. That's good!
Hopefully. I resubscribed last night. But no confirmation from Areafix as of yet.
CP>> Why would I do this? I'm a certifiable lunatic.
AA> You're an investigator / problem-solver at heart.
Partially correct reason.
CP>> Actually, I like testing things, seeing what's available. If I
CP>> could find a good Telnet app for Android with Y or Z modem
CP>> capability and an OLMR for Android, I'd try that as well.
AA> I've looked around the net for something too. There seems to be
AA> several that claim to work well. I can't imagine why Y & Z modem
AA> would be high on an app programmer's list. Direct http:// links to
AA> files makes more sense in these modern apps. But an olmr feature
AA> for messages would be smart. Olmr works with Telegram, sorta.
Y and Z modem are a standard for BBS. If you advertise your Telnet app for BBSes, you should have the capability there.
As far as direct links? That's not really practical for QWK or Bluewave packets. Those are going to be customized files for each user.
CP>> search has some RSS and Forum readers in it. So a vague idea I
CP>> had years ago came back to me. Why couldn't a Web Forum work as
CP>> an FTN style network node?
AA> An RSS feed for an echo would be interesting. But RSS seems be
AA> broken in modern web browsers. The newer Firefox version on Win7
AA> doesn't support it properly. But it works ok on my XP machines.
AA> Therefore, not sure if RSS would be a selling point advantage for
AA> new people who have the latest programs and new pcs.
I wasn't even considering RSS for echos, I only mentioned that because it came up in my NNTP search on Google Play.
CP>> So, I start web searching forum software, and I see that,
CP>> theoretically it could be done. At least one of the forum
CP>> programs that I looked at had the capability to connect with
CP>> Usenet and email lists. So, if that is possible, and FTN networks
CP>> can be gated to both Usenet and email lists, it should work.
AA> Synchronet bbs software provides a forum-like webby interface
AA> option. Some BBSes use it. Apparently it looks and operates
AA> quite well on a smartphone/tablet.
I know there are some that have the capability. But I was actually thinking of operating on a cloud server type thing.
CP>> Did I mention I'm running in 2 hours of sleep in 3 days?
AA> Sleep can be so overrated when the mind is racing.
Been that way for years.
--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android
--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)
