Subj : LSPPPDlr 2003
To : MATT GILBERT
From : MICHEL SAMSON
Date : Tue Dec 07 2004 10:17 am
Hi Matt, [posted in `FdN_BlueWave' by mistake]
About "LSPPPDlr 2003" in two parts of December 6:
MG> I checked out your site, and I sort of am 'getting it'.
The site's main purpose is to keep references and archives handy in
my name. Less effort was put on the surrounding words, i'm afraid! ;-)
MG> I grabbed IVT for DOS... ...it seems to require PC/TCP...
^^^^^^
It takes me back to times when no `Waterloo TCP'-compatible packet-
driver (`EtherPPP' for one) was as reliable and as standard as `PC/TCP':
`EPPPD'/`LSPPP' FreeWare releases attracted no attention yet. ;-) When
Ruurd Beerstra (author of `IVT') went to the `DOS-INet' echo, some years
later, it already felt lonely mentioning `PC/TCP' so it's no surprize to
find that `IVT' still happens to be of marginal use today. It's too bad
i also felt lonely when i asked for `WatTCP' compatibility, though! %-(
I'd have been glad if Mr. Beerstra had decided that Caldera's `Web-
Spyder' ~ODI~ `NetWare' ShareWare stack was a valid compromise for `IVT'
(there are "shims") but no significant feedback justified it neither; i
can thank "spotlight lovers" for all this but what i regret most is that
the `IVT' receipie may never be fully explained, much less transposed...
MG> ...connection... ...RLfossil... ...modem comport...
That's what my `LSPPPDlr' GlueWare does (and much more since you'll
have the choice to call a local DialUp BBS, to connect to an ~ISP~ or to
~TelNet~ to a remote system once the packet-driver is loaded), using the
very same dialing directory interface all the time - not to mention that
multiple BBS/~ISP~/account entries are allowed, and you only need to run
`Commo.BAT' once if, for some reason, `{Commo}' doesn't suit your needs!
MG> ...so that a terminal program, such as COMMO, or maybe telemate...
I'd like to comment that `TeleMate' is a nice terminal emulator but
it dumped me to the DOS command-line pronto on occasions so, i concluded
`{Commo}' or `MS-Kermit' are more reliable in comparison. The quest for
more versatility is appealing? Feel free to evaluate any other material
if you must but i've tried quite a few of them already... ;-> You only
need to find your MoDem, load the `Wizard' macro and create `LogIn.BAT'/
`SetPPP.BAT' files which will help you to use your favourite SoftWare as
an external dialer for the DOS packet-driver (instead of `COMTool.COM'),
if it's what you have in mind... From `{Commo}'s terminal screen, press
[Alt]+[G] if `Commo.SET' hasn't opened already and edit the `por', `bps'
and `com' lines if you wish; the Serial-Port menu will appear after you
pressed the [Escape] key (just note that changes take effect immediately
in that menu while `Commo.SET' modifications done from `{Commo}' require
a restart to be taken into account), simply press [1]-[8], then [M] and/
or [I] as required. When the MoDem finally responds, access the `LSPPP'
Configuration Wizard by pressing [F10] (from `{Commo}'s terminal screen)
and by choosing the corresponding item in the short-cut menu. A dialing
directory entry will be created once you are done with the questionaire.
Passed your 1st successful ~PPP~ connection, you're free to inspect
the configuration files and DOS environment variables to reproduce these
manually: a set of files (`LogIn.BAT'/`SetPPP.BAT') should now show up,
after you used the `{Commo}' entry to connect with your ~ISP~, i mean...
`LogIn.BAT' looks for `SetPPP.BAT', executes it and runs `COMTool';
that's where to begin if you must use `BananaCom', `TeleMate' or else as
the external dialer. Now, relatively to `RLFossil', type "RLF ?" and it
will display the syntax which allows you to select `{Commo}', `Conex' or
`MS-Kermit' (once you loaded `LSPPP', of course)... `ZMoDem' support is
available both in `{Commo}' and `Conex' but `MS-Kermit' makes sense if a
remote server is suitable - which isn't true of implementations as with
the `BBBS' or `WildCat!' BBSes. `MS-Kermit' is a good terminal emulator
but only the same-name transfer protocol works and since `RLFossil' does
not seem to fully comply with the ~FOSSIL~ standard it means no external
protocotol drivers (`CE-XYZ', for example) can work, most unfortunately.
MG> ...I went and downloaded most of the files on your 'glueware' page
MG> and have them still zipped... ...I'm not sure exactly where to go
MG> from here, as I'm not sure exactly where to unzip everything...
I hesitate to override the directives i published. `PKUnZip' using
the "-d" flag from the root to recreate the directories, `C:\PPP\' being
the main one, typically - `{Commo}' also needs `C:\Recv\' and `C:\Send\'
for transfers; features not directly related to `LSPPPDlr' are found in
`C:\Arachne\', `C:\DOS-W32\' and `C:\EtherNet\'. Don't forget the flag!
MG> ...I am really excited about the possiblity of using a DOS machine
MG> to telnet into a bbs and actually transferring files with zmodem...
A December 1998 record from SensationContent shows a `Kermit' setup
already allowed to transfer files via ~TelNet~ at least six years ago, i
regret that most `Kermit' pre-conceptions persist to this day. `ZMoDem'
which seemed to be possible a while later may be at hand now that you're
going to reproduce the ~TelNet~/`ZMoDem' setup i've adopted myself. ;-)
MG> Can you repaste those links here...
Hummm... The `FidoNet' archives or my `LSPPPDlr' page? Try these:
http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/dos_internet
http://www.fidonet.m.nu/echomail/area/DOS_INTERNET/LIST=1
;-)
Salutations,
Michel Samson
a/s Bicephale
http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/eng/2k3updat.htm
... As *LEGACY* as it might sound `MS-Kermit' flew to the Space Station!
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