Subj : Demagogue Definition
To   : Nick Andre
From : Lee Lofaso
Date : Mon Sep 14 2020 05:47 pm

Hello Nick,

>>Janis puts on an excellent act, almost has it down to a science.
>AI> AI>Why do you bring Janis into this?
>
>I mentioned that you are trying the same sort of semantic twists that she's
> a
>grandmaster at. She's an expert at echomail, I don't care what anyone says
> in fact its a strong bold compliment. She plays the semantics like a
> grandmaster. You're still a long way off though...

She's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
Just like you.

>AI>Most times I simply put my reasons in my own words and the fews clips I
>AI>provided were not "out of context" or "disproven".
>
>Yes they were, but who cares - I'm trying to understand exactly how you
>arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism.

Benito Mussolini had the best definition of fascism. After all,
he wrote it. But your claim is Alan's definition is "bizarre".
Please elaborate.

>Or are you going to play semantics and tell me Trump fascism has a
> kinda-sorta different meaning than the term used to describe actual
> murdering brutal dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Keeping Up With the
> Kim Jong's, etc.

There is a huge world of difference between fascism and a personality
cult. Mussolini's Italy was fascist. Had something happened to Il Duce,
Italy would have continued to be fascist. Albeit under a different
leader.

Hitler's Nazi Germany was based on a personality cult. The personality
cult of Adolf Hitler. Had something happened to der Fuehrer, Nazi
Germany would have continued as a personality cult under a new Fuehrer.

>Trump doesn't hold a candle to *any* of them.

Melania Trump has told the news media that Donald Trump has read
Mein Kampf, as well as some of the writings of Benito Mussolini.
Does that make Donald Trump a fascist or a dictator? Of course not.

>As he's an "idiot" to you and a fair segment of the worldwide population, he
> therefore logically does not possess the mental capacity to formulate such
> a sudden single-handed hostile
>takeover of a country of 300+ million people.

I am not impressed by his clownish act. Some folks love it, for
reasons only they might know. In any event, I have never claimed
Trump is stupid or an idiot. A pathological liar, yes. But not
stupid.

>Whether he's voted out in November or stays another 4 years....  he's
> eventually gone.

The man is 74 years old. I expect he will drop sooner than most.

>If you ever worked in a volunteer capacity with new immigrants to our
> country, they would be able to teach you some real harsh lessons and
> stories on the real meaning of "fascism" and how we silly westerners have
> it made big time.

Fascism is an ideology. What immigrants are describing is not fascism,
but authoritarianism and totalitarianism. Dictatorship is more like
government by committee, not necessarily authoritarian.

Mussolini had to deal with the guilds, and was never in total control.
Corporations had their own say and had a hold on what he could and
could not do.

Putin is held in check by the Russian military. If Putin acts in ways
the military does not like, he will be pushed aside and replaced.

Military dictatorships have no check. When soldier tells peasant
to do something, peasant better do what soldier wants. Or no more
peasant.

>And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US
> president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country.

The POTUS claims to be the leader of the free world. As such, every
person in the entire world is free to bash the POTUS. See how that
works? It's the nature of the job. Exactly what the POTUS signed up
for.

>It clearly shows some insecurity, too much free time, or some kind of weird
> mental problem.

Freedom. Such a beautiful thing. You should try it some time.

>I get that its easy to comment on things, but not rant on and on about
> fascism from the safety of your China-made keyboard. Thats just stupid.

Would you rather me type in Chinese characters?

--Lee

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