Subj : No more lies. I will expl
To   : Lee Lofaso
From : Dennis Katsonis
Date : Sat Aug 01 2020 07:25 pm

-=> Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

LL> Hello Dennis,

LL> [..]

>>LL>One pollster (Rachel "The Doc" Bitecofer) has Biden's chances of
>>LL>winning the electoral college at 92%. If Trump were to drop Pence
>>LL>in favor of Carlson, she would change her odds to 100%.
>>
>>Adonbilivit.
>
>LL>She picks `em as she sees `em.
>
>>Again, I heard this in 2016.  I heard these insane odds then.
>
>LL>They call her "The Doc" for a reason.
>
>>I don't know if its delusion or lies to try and demotivate Republican
>>supports.  But if you don't want Trump to win, I would recommend that
>>Democrats start to address some of the issues the Trump does, and reign in
>>the far-left, make a stance against Corporatism, and work for Americans
>>instead, and put their interests ahead of illegals and virtue signalling.
>
>LL>It is not about who one might want to win, but rather what the
>LL>numbers are showing. And right now, the numbers are clearly showing
>LL>Trump as being the loser. It is not even close. He is so far behind
>LL>at this point that he actually wants to postpone the election so
>LL>some future unspecified date. That is what you call truly delusional.
>
>>But from what I see, some of these policies are insane.

LL> The death penalty should be abolished. It would be a blessing if
LL> the next administration would do away with federal executions, setting
LL> an example for state governments to do the same. The current Trump
LL> administration is so sick it is using a drug used by veterinarians to
LL> put down animals in order to murder federal inmates.

>LL>Most of the Trump administration's policies are insane, if not
>LL>downright unconstitutional.
>
>>To suggest that healthcare should be available to anyone on the planet who
>> wants to walk in?

LL> Why not? Nobody deserves to die. Even those on life row. So why
LL> should those who cross our borders be denied access to quality health
LL> care? There simply is no reason. Not any good reason.

Yes there is.  Capability to pay for it.  In Australia, we have an ocean
barrier, but in Europe they saw a million people in a year walk in.  If Europe
were to offer freebies (more than they do), millions more would walk in.  It
would be the end of Europe as we know it, and countries like Greece, which
struggle to support their own, would be overwhelmed.

Economic reality isn't just about being greedy, it is a hard, physical limit on
what you can do.  It's not workable, and if other countries have poor
healthcare systems, they should work on improving them.


>LL>Access to quality health care is the first of all human rights.
>LL>Otherwise, one might as well be dead. And I do not believe you are
>LL>wishing yourself dead.
>
>We will see what the election results are.

LL> Will we? Donald Trump is already claiming the vote will be rigged,
LL> and that he will refuse to acknowledge absentee votes (including mail
LL> in ballots, which are absentee votes) cast as being legitimate.

>I don't believe that anyone should be able to walk into my country, and
> demand that I pay for their healthcare.

LL> When a tourist from another country is visiting here and breaks
LL> a leg (or whatever medical issue it may be), that tourist receives
LL> all the health care he/she needs. And yet you would deny such health
LL> care to those who travel here? Why? Other countries help Americans
LL> who travel there, providing health care services. Go to England,
LL> break a leg. The Brits will fix you up. Go to France, have a grand
LL> mal seizure. The French will take very good care of you. Same in
LL> Germany, and in other places.

LL> We should treat ourselves the same way other countries treat us.

LL> Yes, my friend. Everything ought to be free. I wasn't kidding
LL> the first time I said that. And I am not kidding now.

LL> The first of all human rights is access to quality health care.
LL> From the moment of conception to natural death.

Tourist is one thing, thousands of illegal immigrants is another.  I'm not
worried if my country takes care of tourists who get hurt.  I AM worried if
people come here deliberately to use resources they didn't contribute to, and
in turn, impoverish me and my family for their gain.  That is not fair.

>I am OK with providing assistance to my fellow citizens and compatriots, but
> the world?

LL> Where did I limit my statement to Americans? I really do believe
LL> I was quite clear in what I wrote.

>I can't afford that, and I will not be held ransom by the state to cover
> that bill.

LL> Yes we can. And we will. I am sure you will love it.

No, I won't.  I don't live Leftist policies, and I don't like their end result.
I've seen the result of the policies in Europe first hand, no thank you.  I
will vote against it.


... Dennis Katsonis
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