Subj : Re: Floyd
To : Dale Shipp
From : Gregory Deyss
Date : Thu Jul 23 2020 09:57 pm
On 23 Jul 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...
DS> GD> Your painting with a rather large brush in a attempt to prove your
DS> GD> point. but there are things that are simply no longer the case which
DS> GD> dulls the point that you are trying to make here.
DS>
DS> Actually, I made a very narrow painting showing only a few examples that
DS> came to mind. Those who have lived the black life in America could make
DS> a listing that goes on for hundreds of lines.
Yeah tell that to the Family's in Chicago were the strictest gun laws in the
county and yet they have dead kids who were killed inside of their homes.
DS> How many white parents have felt the need to have "the talk" with their
DS> children about how to act if stopped by the police? How many black
DS> parents have *NOT* felt that need.
What do you think that conversation is Dale among white families to their
young adults?
Be Respectful perhaps...?
Maybe if the Black Families had the same conversation with their young adults
maybe that would break the cycle, what do you think?
DS> GD> These people are subject to watch them closely because of previous
DS> GD> events. Being Vigilant is not Prejudice.
DS>
DS> The very fact that you make such a statement is based on predjudice.
DS> You are making a judgement about a single person based on some
DS> experience with someone else "like them".
Wrong, taking action and being Vigilant are two separate things.
DS>
DS> GD> Blacks have been equal in schools since the civil rights act has been
DS> GD> passed.
DS>
DS> That is simply not true. The budgets of predominately black schools
DS> have been less than those of predominately white schools. Hence, not
DS> equal.
Your facts are lefty fictions, you ever hear of opportunity zones, why don't
you read up on what the President is doing for Urban kids in schools.
You might even learn something.
DS> GD> No one is chasing them out of town with guns aimed - that would
DS> GD> illegal and punishable by law.
DS>
DS> Tell that to Treyvon Martin or Ahmaud Arbrey. Oh -- you can't do that
DS> because they were chased with guns aimed and were killed.
We all know the Treyvon Martin Story, and that is no one to put on a pedestal.
He was a thug, and also a kid who Obama once said could of been my son.
DS> DS> GD> I do understand where there would be a
DS> GD> fear of a sole women in elevator gripping her purse more securely -so
DS> GD> what. Just because she feels slightly insecure or may just feel
DS> GD> frightened, means nothing in it self. This is not a crime and it
DS> GD> shouldn't provide the spark or trigger or create the outrage that
DS> GD> destroys cities across the United States.
DS>
DS> The fact that it happens when sharing an elevator with a black man and
DS> not with a white man is evidence of the systemic racism that colors
DS> people's attitudes, albeit subconsciously.
So what? That is the spark that creates enough outrage to justify the chaos?
DS> DS> Within my lifetime, I can recall going into a restaurant for lunch an
DS> DS> observing a black couple who had to go to the back door and get food
DS> DS> eat in their car. I can recall that my schools had no black students
DS> DS> I can recall observing black analysts being denied promotion for no g
DS> DS> reason, even though they were as qualified as others. I can recall w
DS> DS> it was against the law for a white and a black to get married. Most
DS> DS> these things are no longer true, but the stain and stigma remains.
DS>
DS> GD> I am not denying that any of those things have happened, but as you
DS> GD> recall these memories from the past,
DS>
DS> Some of which are not from a distant past. The fact that they ever
DS> happened has contributed to the national predjudice.
This is 2020 not 1950.
DS> GD> Did you know every back man who was shot and killed by a police
DS> GD> officer from Michael Brown to George Floyd would still be alive today
DS> GD> if they did not resist arrest?
DS>
DS> That is not true. Michael Brown was not armed and did not form a threat
DS> to police.
I do not think you have the same understanding with the facts in the Michael
Brown case or what the events that led to Mr. Browns death. You apparently were
sleeping when when it once announced the Michael Brown reached into the Police
car and tried to take the gun from the Police Officer and also how Micheal
Brown did not obey Police instruction and charged toward the Police Officer.
This is why the man died. This is happens to a Stupid Fuck. He dies.
DS> GD> You know what this is all about it is in direct defiance of
DS> GD> declaration made from the President with Law and Order and the
DS> GD> authority that it represents. These people suggest "Too many Rules"
DS> GD> and therefore no respect for Law & Order"
DS> GD> They are kidding themselves if they think they will be successful
DS> GD> against the Full power of the U.S. Government.
DS>
DS> Right -- send in the storm troopers to grab people off the street and
DS> wisk them away in unmarked vehicles, all with no probable cause or
DS> justification. That is Trump's idea of law and order.
Probable Cause ? Are you serious these cities look like a warzone and getting
worse by the hour. Storm Troopers - Yet another Nazi Reference?
You're as bad as Pelosi that's what she said I do believe.
These are Democratic Mayors & Governors who have lost control of their cities.
Do you deny that? - or do like chaos?
