Subj : Re: War Powers Vote
To : Gregory Deyss
From : Dale Shipp
Date : Fri Jan 31 2020 02:51 am
-=> On 01-30-20 07:35, Gregory Deyss <=-
-=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: War Powers Vote <=-
GD> On 30 Jan 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...
DS> Where did you get your law degree? I ask because lawyers and
DS> constitutional experts have stated that what he did violated multiple
DS> laws -- and I told you what they were.
GD> Do these Constitutional so called experts of yours have names.
GD> Mine is named Alan Dershowitz.
I do not recall their names but they testified in the House impeachment
hearings. As to Alan Dershowitz, his testimony directly contradicted
the testimony given by a constitutional professor at the Clinton
Impeachment trial. And the name of that professor was Alan Dershowitz.
His current testimony almost declared that Trump can do anything he
wants so long as Trump believes it is in the national interest. That
sounds like a Nixon quote -- "if the president does it, it is not
against the law". And we all know how that ended up. Trump is not
above the law, nor is he the judge of what is and what is not against
the law. What he did violated multiple federal laws.
GD> Article I
GD> Abuse of Power
GD> Article II
GD> Obstruction of Congress
GD> According to Alan Dershowitz it does not this attempt of impeachment
GD> does not meet Constitutional standards.
DS> According to Alan Dershowitz the President can do anything he wants to
GD> Mr. Dershowitz is not bias, he is and always will be for
GD> the U.S. Constitution.
Then explain why when he was testifying at the impeachment trial of a
Democratic President he said one thing, and then completly reversed his
testimony when testifying at the impeachmment trial of a Republican
President. That shows bias in anyone's book.
GD> Just look back what has transpired in the last 3 years
OK -- go for it.
GD> First it was the phony fictional fake Russian Dossier.
Not phony. Much of the details in that Dossier have been collaborated
by investigation. And BTW, it was commissioned by the Republicans.
GD> Then there was few top officials within intelligence community.
GD> (FBI,CIA) Deliberately falsified documents were provided to the fisa
GD> court, to spy on private American Citizens, running for POTUS.
Wrong on two counts. There were mistakes made in the FISA warrents, but
not by "Top Officials". And the FISA warrents were not against anyone
running for POTUS. They were against Carter Page, a member of the
campaign.
GD> Then there was the Mueller Investigation which seemed to go on
GD> forever.
Perhaps in your mind. I believe it was two years. It produced a lot of
evidence of Russian interference in the elections of 2016. It made
indictments, arrests and convictions of multiple people. It recovered
more money as a result of those convictions than the investigation cost.
GD> At the end of this Robert Mueller himself provided a less then
GD> spectacular performance. Couldn't recall elements of his own report.
Fair statement. Mueller is a good investigator, but did not present a
good public appearance before Congress. Has nothing to do with the
content of the report though.
GD> Why because this report contained his name but largely was put together
GD> by more then a handful of democrats filled bias against Donald Trump.
Wrong. Mueller and most of the members of his team were either neutral
or Republicans.
GD> Then there the impeachment hearings, w/ pencilneck Shifty shiff. more
GD> bias not allowing the Republicans to speak - him with his "point of
GD> order" crap.
I guess you are following Trump's procedure. When you cannot argue the
facts, denigrate the participants of the other side by calling them
derogatory names. As to "his point of order", can you name any
occasion when other than when that was invoked whenever a Republican
attempted to violate the law by naming the whistleblower.
GD> There will be no trial.
Unfortunately, there will not be a fair trial.
Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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