Subj : Re: The manifesto
To   : Dale Shipp
From : Al Miller
Date : Tue Sep 10 2019 07:28 pm



>  AM> So basically you want to allow anyone who can get to the US to be able
>  AM> to just become a citizen?

> I never said anyone.  I said those who have a legitimate reason for
> seeking asylum.  In some cases that is a real fear for the safety of
> themselves and their children.  The USA has laws that allow such people
> to appeal for asylum once they enter the country and for a judge to hear
> their case to decide if it is acceptable.

No issue here

>  AM> I don�t have an issue allowing people in that the country has a �need�
>  AM> for their skills.  I don't like the
>  AM> idea of just allowing anyone that can make up any story to just be
>  AM> allowed in. It makes for a bunch
>  AM> of minimum wage people that we will likely all end up paying for in
>  AM> the long run.

> It makes for a bunch of people who are willing and able to work and
> contribute to the economy.  Who do you think picks your fruit and
> vegetables in the fields.  Who do you think does the cleaning and other
> low level jobs in the hotel industry -- including Trump's golf courses.
> Once they are here, "these people" usually prove to be a benefit to
> society.  They pay taxes, including social security and medicare.

If that were true I'd be fine but they make minimum wage and need government
assistance which guess who pays for?

Not sure what Trump has to do with this discussion other then to bring liberals
together screaming at the moon and crying their eyes out.  His opinion doesn't
matter to me.

>  AM> The next statement is for every decision we make and isn�t directed at
>  AM> either party alone:

>  AM> Our country is going deeper in debt every year and until we balance
>  AM> the budget we need to think
>  AM> through the cost impact of these decisions or one day we wont have a
>  AM> country and all the cry
>  AM> babies saying how bad the USA is right now will see what bad really
>  AM> is.

> The immigrates are not the cause of increasing national debt.  The cause
> for that are things like military spending and tax cuts for the wealthy.

If they cost me a penny I don't want them here, if they pay their way without
government assistance and they don't work illegally I'm fine with them. Its
really that simple.

I want our budget balanced before we take on more problems and they are not all
plus and no minus.

If we stop spending on the military we wont be safe - not looking to debate
that with you just pointing out that I disagree.
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