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Launching the BeOS on Hitachi Flora Prius Systems (1999)
protocolture wrote 2 hours 37 min ago:
I have this weird memory of running either a file explorer or whole
operating system side by side with windows 95. But the madness, the
real craziness that makes me doubt my memory is that it was branded the
same as my monitor.
jonah-archive wrote 9 hours 7 min ago:
This is an utterly random question, and I'm sure there's a better place
to ask it, but does anyone reading this happen to have/know the logic
analyzer pinout [0] on the BeBox mainboard? I got a weird rackmount
BeBox (an LCS LD-CS1, the controller for their LD-88 audio mixer [1])
and have been rebuilding the blinkenlight board, but I'd love to drop
an Agilent on there at some point.
0: [1] "The pin-out for the logic probe interface is available upon
request from Be, Inc. Be can supply a card and analyzer set-up
libraries that connect the CPU bus to an HP 1660A."
1:
[1]: https://bebits.irixnet.org/beos/docs/DR8/UserDoc/DR8UsersGuide...
[2]: http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/deve...
detourdog wrote 8 hours 40 min ago:
It’s been a while but are you talking about the “Geekport” [1]
The Nike store on 57th street in Manhattan was powered by a BeBox. I
forget if it ever actually worked. The original developer was
replaced by Kandu and I remember them thinking it was trouble. Kandu
was famous for hating anything more complex than MS-DOS. We worked on
a project where they claimed to have rewritten most of DOS.
[1]: https://www.beunited.org/bebook/
doublerabbit wrote 10 hours 15 min ago:
And from BeOS Haiku lives on.
If you haven't you should check it out. [1] It without all the X and
Wayland mess it's a good alternative for an operating system.
[1]: https://haiku-os.org
codr7 wrote 10 hours 32 min ago:
Imo they had already lost at this point.
Sad, I used BeOS full time for a few glorious months right after the
Intel pivot. Reminded me of my Amiga days.
jbverschoor wrote 4 min ago:
Me too.. and I used it at work while at Lucent too.
drooopy wrote 9 hours 15 min ago:
I played quite a bit with that free intel version they came out with
back in 98? 99? Shame that my internal modem wasn't working and I
couldn't get on the internet with it.
Aldipower wrote 9 hours 54 min ago:
May I ask what your tasks were you did with BeOS. Just curios.
codr7 wrote 7 hours 27 min ago:
Coding mostly, which is what I mainly use computers for; it offers
pretty nice C++ APIs for building apps.
But I also used GoBe Productive, which is by far the nicest office
suite I've tried.
And playing music, back then it was the only OS that could play an
MP3 without skipping while you used the computer for something
else.
AshamedCaptain wrote 10 hours 59 min ago:
This article is not complete without the reminder that this entire
dance of instructions was required because MS would not allow a Windows
OEM licensor to ship ANY customer-facing computer that would offer the
option to boot BeOS via a pre-loaded bootloader or similar. [1] > Be
outlines its tortured history of trying to get its operating system
included on machines from major computer makers, most notably Compaq
Computer and Hitachi.
> Be said that in September 1998, Hitachi verbally committed to loading
the BeOS alongside Windows on a line of PCs. Be had planned to offer
software that would easily let computer owners choose between the two
operating systems, but said it was notified by Hitachi in November 1998
that Microsoft's licensing deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such
an approach.
> Although Hitachi eventually sold some PCs with the BeOS loaded on the
hard drive, Be said the operating system had to be started from a
floppy disk, and the machines bore no indication that they even came
with the operating system.
[1]: https://www.zdnet.com/article/be-stings-microsoft-with-lawsuit...
yardie wrote 8 hours 21 min ago:
> it was notified by Hitachi in November 1998 that Microsoft's
licensing deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such an approach.
For those too young to remember, this is what the anti-trust case
against Microsoft was actually about. Internet Explorer, while
important, was just a small part of the Microsoft's monopolistic
practice of absolutely fucking over developers, other OSes (including
Linux) and consumer choice. It's mildly infuriating now to hear about
the bad old Microsoft not being allowed to give end users the best
browser available, knowing that was just the tip of the iceberg.
sillywalk wrote 7 hours 47 min ago:
Be, or rather the remnants of Be, settled their anti-trust case
with Microsoft for $23.3 million in 2003.
[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20131109045719/http://www.inte...
AtlasBarfed wrote 10 hours 22 min ago:
That's the state of antitrust in the US: openly State publicly
anti-competitive language and documents...
Zero chance of any enforcement.
It's kind of hilarious seeing hacker news report on what the EU does.
"Can you believe these ridiculous requirements" says Hacker News.
Yes. Yes I can believe that
bigyabai wrote 3 hours 52 min ago:
If there was a competitive league for justifying anticompetitive
contracts, HN would be guaranteed a finalist team to compete with
whoever Oracle decides to put in the ring.
yjftsjthsd-h wrote 11 hours 2 min ago:
Launching from Windows is funny. Reminds me of GRUB4DOS and [1] even if
the particulars differ.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(software)
doener wrote 16 hours 12 min ago:
Via
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzosnPSETzk
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