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| Launching the BeOS on Hitachi Flora Prius Systems (1999) | |
| Lammy wrote 7 hours 42 min ago: | |
| Hitachi's press release where Preinstalled BeOS was announced: [1] | |
| [1]: https://www.hitachi.com/New/cnews/E/1998/981111B.html | |
| [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40712847 | |
| theragra wrote 3 hours 53 min ago: | |
| Pretty cool. I remember how I had written question to local IT | |
| newspaper asking how to install BeOS if you have HDD LBA addressing | |
| workaround installed. This was way too complex question for them to | |
| know. | |
| Still, I think I played with BeOs 5 somehow. I was in high school at | |
| the time, and already was familiar with Linux (Ukrainian black cat | |
| Linux). I think my curiosity made my career in IT progress much | |
| faster. I even was compiling Linux kernel once, which was considered | |
| a top achievement at the time. | |
| Good times. | |
| protocolture wrote 19 hours 37 min ago: | |
| I have this weird memory of running either a file explorer or whole | |
| operating system side by side with windows 95. But the madness, the | |
| real craziness that makes me doubt my memory is that it was branded the | |
| same as my monitor. | |
| jonah-archive wrote 1 day ago: | |
| This is an utterly random question, and I'm sure there's a better place | |
| to ask it, but does anyone reading this happen to have/know the logic | |
| analyzer pinout [0] on the BeBox mainboard? I got a weird rackmount | |
| BeBox (an LCS LD-CS1, the controller for their LD-88 audio mixer [1]) | |
| and have been rebuilding the blinkenlight board, but I'd love to drop | |
| an Agilent on there at some point. | |
| 0: [1] "The pin-out for the logic probe interface is available upon | |
| request from Be, Inc. Be can supply a card and analyzer set-up | |
| libraries that connect the CPU bus to an HP 1660A." | |
| 1: | |
| [1]: https://bebits.irixnet.org/beos/docs/DR8/UserDoc/DR8UsersGuide... | |
| [2]: http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/deve... | |
| detourdog wrote 1 day ago: | |
| Itâs been a while but are you talking about the âGeekportâ [1] | |
| The Nike store on 57th street in Manhattan was powered by a BeBox. I | |
| forget if it ever actually worked. The original developer was | |
| replaced by Kandu and I remember them thinking it was trouble. Kandu | |
| was famous for hating anything more complex than MS-DOS. We worked on | |
| a project where they claimed to have rewritten most of DOS. | |
| [1]: https://www.beunited.org/bebook/ | |
| jonah-archive wrote 6 hours 39 min ago: | |
| The Geekport is reasonably well-documented -- this is a direct | |
| logic analyzer port on the bus on the mainboard (in the form factor | |
| of a CPU socket -- upper right of the photo on this page): | |
| [1]: http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/... | |
| doublerabbit wrote 1 day ago: | |
| And from BeOS Haiku lives on. | |
| If you haven't you should check it out. [1] It without all the X and | |
| Wayland mess it's a good alternative for an operating system. | |
| [1]: https://haiku-os.org | |
| codr7 wrote 1 day ago: | |
| Imo they had already lost at this point. | |
| Sad, I used BeOS full time for a few glorious months right after the | |
| Intel pivot. Reminded me of my Amiga days. | |
| jbverschoor wrote 17 hours 4 min ago: | |
| Me too.. and I used it at work while at Lucent too. | |
| drooopy wrote 1 day ago: | |
| I played quite a bit with that free intel version they came out with | |
| back in 98? 99? Shame that my internal modem wasn't working and I | |
| couldn't get on the internet with it. | |
| Aldipower wrote 1 day ago: | |
| May I ask what your tasks were you did with BeOS. Just curios. | |
| codr7 wrote 1 day ago: | |
| Coding mostly, which is what I mainly use computers for; it offers | |
| pretty nice C++ APIs for building apps. | |
| But I also used GoBe Productive, which is by far the nicest office | |
| suite I've tried. | |
| And playing music, back then it was the only OS that could play an | |
| MP3 without skipping while you used the computer for something | |
| else. | |
| ewgoforth wrote 4 hours 11 min ago: | |
| I played around with BeOS a little about 25 years ago. It did | |
| perhaps the best job of remaining responsive under high load of | |
| any OS I've used. | |
| AshamedCaptain wrote 1 day ago: | |
| This article is not complete without the reminder that this entire | |
| dance of instructions was required because MS would not allow a Windows | |
| OEM licensor to ship ANY customer-facing computer that would offer the | |
| option to boot BeOS via a pre-loaded bootloader or similar. [1] > Be | |
| outlines its tortured history of trying to get its operating system | |
| included on machines from major computer makers, most notably Compaq | |
| Computer and Hitachi. | |
| > Be said that in September 1998, Hitachi verbally committed to loading | |
| the BeOS alongside Windows on a line of PCs. Be had planned to offer | |
| software that would easily let computer owners choose between the two | |
| operating systems, but said it was notified by Hitachi in November 1998 | |
| that Microsoft's licensing deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such | |
| an approach. | |
| > Although Hitachi eventually sold some PCs with the BeOS loaded on the | |
| hard drive, Be said the operating system had to be started from a | |
| floppy disk, and the machines bore no indication that they even came | |
| with the operating system. | |
| [1]: https://www.zdnet.com/article/be-stings-microsoft-with-lawsuit... | |
| yardie wrote 1 day ago: | |
| > it was notified by Hitachi in November 1998 that Microsoft's | |
| licensing deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such an approach. | |
| For those too young to remember, this is what the anti-trust case | |
| against Microsoft was actually about. Internet Explorer, while | |
| important, was just a small part of the Microsoft's monopolistic | |
| practice of absolutely fucking over developers, other OSes (including | |
| Linux) and consumer choice. It's mildly infuriating now to hear about | |
| the bad old Microsoft not being allowed to give end users the best | |
| browser available, knowing that was just the tip of the iceberg. | |
| sillywalk wrote 1 day ago: | |
| Be, or rather the remnants of Be, settled their anti-trust case | |
| with Microsoft for $23.3 million in 2003. | |
| [1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20131109045719/http://www.inte... | |
| AtlasBarfed wrote 1 day ago: | |
| That's the state of antitrust in the US: openly State publicly | |
| anti-competitive language and documents... | |
| Zero chance of any enforcement. | |
| It's kind of hilarious seeing hacker news report on what the EU does. | |
| "Can you believe these ridiculous requirements" says Hacker News. | |
| Yes. Yes I can believe that | |
| bigyabai wrote 20 hours 52 min ago: | |
| If there was a competitive league for justifying anticompetitive | |
| contracts, HN would be guaranteed a finalist team to compete with | |
| whoever Oracle decides to put in the ring. | |
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote 1 day ago: | |
| Launching from Windows is funny. Reminds me of GRUB4DOS and [1] even if | |
| the particulars differ. | |
| [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(software) | |
| doener wrote 1 day ago: | |
| Via | |
| [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzosnPSETzk | |
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