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Launching the BeOS on Hitachi Flora Prius Systems (1999) | |
protocolture wrote 2 hours 37 min ago: | |
I have this weird memory of running either a file explorer or whole | |
operating system side by side with windows 95. But the madness, the | |
real craziness that makes me doubt my memory is that it was branded the | |
same as my monitor. | |
jonah-archive wrote 9 hours 7 min ago: | |
This is an utterly random question, and I'm sure there's a better place | |
to ask it, but does anyone reading this happen to have/know the logic | |
analyzer pinout [0] on the BeBox mainboard? I got a weird rackmount | |
BeBox (an LCS LD-CS1, the controller for their LD-88 audio mixer [1]) | |
and have been rebuilding the blinkenlight board, but I'd love to drop | |
an Agilent on there at some point. | |
0: [1] "The pin-out for the logic probe interface is available upon | |
request from Be, Inc. Be can supply a card and analyzer set-up | |
libraries that connect the CPU bus to an HP 1660A." | |
1: | |
[1]: https://bebits.irixnet.org/beos/docs/DR8/UserDoc/DR8UsersGuide... | |
[2]: http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/deve... | |
detourdog wrote 8 hours 40 min ago: | |
Itâs been a while but are you talking about the âGeekportâ [1] | |
The Nike store on 57th street in Manhattan was powered by a BeBox. I | |
forget if it ever actually worked. The original developer was | |
replaced by Kandu and I remember them thinking it was trouble. Kandu | |
was famous for hating anything more complex than MS-DOS. We worked on | |
a project where they claimed to have rewritten most of DOS. | |
[1]: https://www.beunited.org/bebook/ | |
doublerabbit wrote 10 hours 15 min ago: | |
And from BeOS Haiku lives on. | |
If you haven't you should check it out. [1] It without all the X and | |
Wayland mess it's a good alternative for an operating system. | |
[1]: https://haiku-os.org | |
codr7 wrote 10 hours 32 min ago: | |
Imo they had already lost at this point. | |
Sad, I used BeOS full time for a few glorious months right after the | |
Intel pivot. Reminded me of my Amiga days. | |
jbverschoor wrote 4 min ago: | |
Me too.. and I used it at work while at Lucent too. | |
drooopy wrote 9 hours 15 min ago: | |
I played quite a bit with that free intel version they came out with | |
back in 98? 99? Shame that my internal modem wasn't working and I | |
couldn't get on the internet with it. | |
Aldipower wrote 9 hours 54 min ago: | |
May I ask what your tasks were you did with BeOS. Just curios. | |
codr7 wrote 7 hours 27 min ago: | |
Coding mostly, which is what I mainly use computers for; it offers | |
pretty nice C++ APIs for building apps. | |
But I also used GoBe Productive, which is by far the nicest office | |
suite I've tried. | |
And playing music, back then it was the only OS that could play an | |
MP3 without skipping while you used the computer for something | |
else. | |
AshamedCaptain wrote 10 hours 59 min ago: | |
This article is not complete without the reminder that this entire | |
dance of instructions was required because MS would not allow a Windows | |
OEM licensor to ship ANY customer-facing computer that would offer the | |
option to boot BeOS via a pre-loaded bootloader or similar. [1] > Be | |
outlines its tortured history of trying to get its operating system | |
included on machines from major computer makers, most notably Compaq | |
Computer and Hitachi. | |
> Be said that in September 1998, Hitachi verbally committed to loading | |
the BeOS alongside Windows on a line of PCs. Be had planned to offer | |
software that would easily let computer owners choose between the two | |
operating systems, but said it was notified by Hitachi in November 1998 | |
that Microsoft's licensing deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such | |
an approach. | |
> Although Hitachi eventually sold some PCs with the BeOS loaded on the | |
hard drive, Be said the operating system had to be started from a | |
floppy disk, and the machines bore no indication that they even came | |
with the operating system. | |
[1]: https://www.zdnet.com/article/be-stings-microsoft-with-lawsuit... | |
yardie wrote 8 hours 21 min ago: | |
> it was notified by Hitachi in November 1998 that Microsoft's | |
licensing deal with Hitachi effectively prevented such an approach. | |
For those too young to remember, this is what the anti-trust case | |
against Microsoft was actually about. Internet Explorer, while | |
important, was just a small part of the Microsoft's monopolistic | |
practice of absolutely fucking over developers, other OSes (including | |
Linux) and consumer choice. It's mildly infuriating now to hear about | |
the bad old Microsoft not being allowed to give end users the best | |
browser available, knowing that was just the tip of the iceberg. | |
sillywalk wrote 7 hours 47 min ago: | |
Be, or rather the remnants of Be, settled their anti-trust case | |
with Microsoft for $23.3 million in 2003. | |
[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20131109045719/http://www.inte... | |
AtlasBarfed wrote 10 hours 22 min ago: | |
That's the state of antitrust in the US: openly State publicly | |
anti-competitive language and documents... | |
Zero chance of any enforcement. | |
It's kind of hilarious seeing hacker news report on what the EU does. | |
"Can you believe these ridiculous requirements" says Hacker News. | |
Yes. Yes I can believe that | |
bigyabai wrote 3 hours 52 min ago: | |
If there was a competitive league for justifying anticompetitive | |
contracts, HN would be guaranteed a finalist team to compete with | |
whoever Oracle decides to put in the ring. | |
yjftsjthsd-h wrote 11 hours 2 min ago: | |
Launching from Windows is funny. Reminds me of GRUB4DOS and [1] even if | |
the particulars differ. | |
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(software) | |
doener wrote 16 hours 12 min ago: | |
Via | |
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzosnPSETzk | |
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