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ARTICLE VIEW:
Trump encouraged Vance to respond diplomatically when asked about Musk.
Here’s how it played in real time
By Kit Maher, CNN
Updated:
2:43 PM EDT, Sat June 7, 2025
Source: CNN
Vice President JD Vance rolled his eyes when shown during a podcast
taping should be impeached and Vance should replace him.
“Oh, my God,” Vance said, sipping Celsius while sitting across from
comedian and podcaster Theo Von. “See, this is what I’m talking
about.”
“What are you talking about — campaigning?” Von joked.
But Vance didn’t take the bait, or even risk joking about the
possibility of taking power from Trump.
“This stuff is just not helpful,” Vance said of Musk, of Trump’s
domestic policy agenda into bitter personal attacks, this jab
specifically appearing to pit the president and Vance against each
other.
“Politics is a place where people stab each other in the back. You
can’t get anything done, unless you’re all on the same team and
you’re actually committed to getting stuff done together,” Vance
continued. “The idea that … the president should be impeached —
I’m sorry, it’s insane.”
As Musk was adding fuel to the flames of the escalating fight Thursday,
Vance was taping a with Von in Nashville at Trump ally Kid Rock’s new
restaurant and was forced to respond in real time.
Vance was shown for the first time Musk’s post accusing Trump,
without evidence, of being in the “.”
Reading the post on the monitor, Vance said, “I haven’t even seen
this one.”
“Jeez, man,” Vance said, letting out a breath.
“Presumably when this comes out, people are going to know more about
this than even I do, because this kinda happened on the plane when I
was coming on down here,” he said during the interview, which was
released Saturday morning.
Before Vance flew to Nashville to tape the podcast, the vice president
was in the Oval Office sitting to Trump’s left when reporters
peppered the president with questions about Musk’s criticism of his
“one big, beautiful bill.” A source familiar said Trump and Vance
had multiple conversations throughout the day Thursday and that Trump
encouraged Vance to speak diplomatically about Musk when asked about
him publicly.
Vance first defended Trump against the Epstein allegations, saying in
the podcast, “Absolutely not. Donald Trump didn’t do anything wrong
with Jeffrey Epstein.”
“Whatever the Democrats and the media says about them, that’s
totally BS,” Vance added.
But it wasn’t the Democrats or “the media” making this
allegation, it was Trump’s former right-hand man, Musk.
Vance, however, didn’t lash out at Musk or serve as an attack dog for
Trump, instead taking the diplomatic approach the president encouraged
and making it clear where his loyalty lies. At the time, Vance said he
hoped the two men might make amends, but the Epstein post put some
doubt in his mind.
“I’m the vice president to President Trump. My loyalties are always
going to be with the president, and I think that Elon, he’s an
incredible entrepreneur,” Vance said, adding, “I hope that
eventually Elon kind of comes back into the fold. Maybe that’s not
possible now, because he’s gone so nuclear.”
On Saturday, Trump told he’s not interested in fixing his
relationship with Musk. The Tesla CEO appears to have deleted several
of the posts from Thursday’s feud, including the one about Epstein
and suggesting the president should be impeached and replaced with
Vance, but the criticism of Trump’s bill remains on his X account.
Vance and Musk, however, have long had a good relationship, even before
Vance was chosen as Trump’s running mate, and the two would speak
regularly, a source familiar with their interactions told CNN.
that Musk lobbied Trump to pick Vance as a running mate, as did several
conservative allies, including Donald Trump Jr., Steve Bannon and
Tucker Carlson.
Responding to Musk’s implosion with Trump, Vance praised him for his
efforts to rid out “waste, fraud and abuse” with the Department of
Government Efficiency, but cast him as emotional, an entrepreneur who
is frustrated with business of politics.
“Elon’s new to politics, right? So, his businesses are being
attacked nonstop. They’re literally, like, fire-bombing some of his
cars,” Vance said, referring to against Tesla vehicles and
facilities. “I think part of it is this guy got into politics and has
suffered a lot for it.”
“I get the frustration,” Vance said. “It’s a good bill. It’s
not a perfect bill, like the process of DC, if you’re a business
leader, you probably get frustrated with that process because it’s
more, you know, bureaucratic, it’s more slow-moving.”
“Really, man, I think it’s a huge mistake for him to go after the
president like that,” Vance said. “I think that if he and the
president are in some blood feud. Most importantly, it’s gonna be bad
for the country, but … I don’t think it’s gonna be good for Elon
either.”
Vance hinted at some erosion between Trump and Musk’s relationship,
based on his criticism of the bill, even before Thursday’s blowup.
“I don’t want to reveal too many confidences, but [Trump] was
getting a little frustrated, feeling like some of the criticisms were
unfair coming from Elon, but I think has been very restrained, because
the president doesn’t think that he needs to be in a blood feud with
Elon Musk, and I actually think if Elon chilled out a little bit,
everything would be fine,” Vance said.
While Vance said, “Elon’s entitled to his opinion,” he warned of
entering a “war” with Trump.
“Is this war actually in the interest of the country? I don’t think
so,” Vance said. “So, hopefully, Elon figures it out, comes back
into the fold.”
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