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[07:02] <flynux> -:- Signon by z!~z@0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 at 06:39
[07:02] <flynux> lol, yen a un qui s'amuses la =)
[07:11] <Xme> yop flynux
[07:22] <flynux> 'lo
[07:22] <flynux> http://securityoffice.softimage.net finalement le gars qui a hack� microsoft ya 1 an ou 2 a fini par releaser ses d�couvertes =)
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[08:14] <nail> groar
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[08:55] <Gaston> Physicman> la debian testing marche bien actuellement?
[08:55] <Gaston> plop bleutche
[08:55] <Gaston> plop lint
[09:00] <Xme> yop
[09:00] <z0x> yop all
[09:01] <Gaston> yopyop
[09:06] <nail> winamp/xmms - ctrl-l - http://wh0z.yodaddy.org:9500
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[09:29] <nicotine> *another bad day begin*
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[09:40] Last message repeated 2 time(s).
[09:40] <killertje> :)
[09:40] <killertje> hello nicotine
[09:41] <Gaston> nicotine> euh
[09:41] <nicotine> 'llo killertje
[09:41] <Gaston> ava?
[09:41] <nicotine> Gaston: yo
[09:41] <nail> qq'un utilise gnome2 ?
[09:41] <nicotine> Gaston: gimme axx sur le botnet :)
[09:41] <Gaston> ah t'as pas?
[09:42] <nicotine> on dirait pas
[09:42] <nicotine> mais jtrouve pas les bon ports non plus
[09:42] <Gaston> vala sette ton pass
[09:42] <Gaston> 2801
[09:42] <nicotine> thx
[09:42] <Gaston> sette le par IRC
[09:42] <nicotine> jsais plus comment on fait :(
[09:42] <Gaston> c /msg blah1 pass <tonpass>
[09:43] <nicotine> thx
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[09:43] <nicotine> :@
[09:43] <twisla> http://dealah.srvvrs.com:1337
[09:44] <twisla> naffout' de la taille ;p
[09:44] <nicotine> mdr
[09:47] <nicotine> jen peut plus
[09:47] <nicotine> je v devoir rebrancher mon ampli
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[10:04] <twislawrk> re
[10:16] <Champi> 'lo
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[10:28] <Gaston> blerk apt-get qui marche en ipv6 maintenant
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[10:33] <Champi> t'as une source ipv6 ?
[10:33] <Gaston> naon
[10:33] <Gaston> mais il essaie
[10:34] <Gaston> 'fin j'ai pas le link
[10:34] <abenWork> ah si il essaie sur l'unif en hollande
[10:34] <Gaston> mais le mirror existe en ipv6
[10:34] <abenWork> il risque d'avoir des l�gers probl�mes
[10:34] <Gaston> abenWork> ben curieusement security.debian.org marche
[10:34] <Champi> l'unif en hollande ?
[10:34] <Champi> celel qui a brul�e ? :p
[10:35] <Champi> HP a envoyer un camion complet
[10:35] <abenWork> bah ils ont transf�r� ca ailleurs sur un autre mirror
[10:35] <abenWork> c plus a l'unif quoi :)
[10:37] <Moosh> vous  connaissez des gens du lug de charleroi ?
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[10:38] <Gaston> mmh c zarbi, le touchpad foire completement quand config en IMPS/2
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[10:42] Action: Moosh  demande de l'aide pour mieux  lire le resultat d'un traceroute .  je fais  un tr sur  80.247.224.230
[10:42] <Moosh> de l'ucl comme  via  wana ca  bloque tr�s vite
[10:42] <Moosh> 3eme hop
[10:42] <Champi> moi j'ai une loop
[10:42] <Moosh> je dois en d�duire  koi ?
[10:43] <Champi> 212.94.164.105 212.94.164.109
[10:45] <Champi> ldcom fucked
[10:45] <Moosh> Je sens que  Champi va  pouvoir m'apprendre quelque chose
[10:45] <Moosh> ca veut  dire  koi ?  c'est un  probl�me  sur la cible ou sur le parcourt ?
[10:46] <Champi> non c chez moi
[10:46] <Champi> niveau route
[10:46] <Champi> j'ai une loop entre 2 router
[10:46] <Champi> donc ca tourne en rond :)
[10:47] <Champi> sinon j'arrive a trace jusqu'a :
[10:47] <Champi> 9. 213.30.165.226                                                                             0%    7    7    93   89   92     98
[10:47] <Champi> 10. ???
[10:47] <Champi> 11. ???
[10:47] <Champi> 12. anabelle.nfrance.com                                                                       0%    7    7    93   92   94     96
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[10:54] <Moosh> Champi: anabelle.nfrance.com c la bonne  moi ca bloquait  au 3.
[10:54] <Moosh> maintenant c rentr� dans l'ordre
[10:54] <Moosh> mais je constate que le 3. a chang� chez wana
[10:58] <Gaston> mmh quelqu'un pour m'aider avec debian? j'ai d'�tranges ph�nom�nes :)
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[11:01] <Alkagord> Gaston< explique
[11:02] <mnem0nic> yo
[11:04] <Gaston> Alkagord> mmmh ben en fait dhclient ne get pas de lease
[11:04] <Alkagord> quelle version de dhclient ?
[11:04] <Alkagord> j'avia eu des probs
[11:05] <Alkagord> mais paske c t une slack et que j'avais pas fais de dhcpcd -k avt de fouttre la debian
[11:05] <Gaston> ah trouv�
[11:05] <Gaston> CONFIG_PACKET et CONFIG_FILTER en kernel :)
[11:06] <Alkagord> arf :)
[11:06] <mnem0nic> pour dhclient, suffit de le mettre dans le cron :)
[11:07] <Gaston> dhclient en cron?
[11:07] <Gaston> il doit tourner en permanence normalement :)
[11:07] <Gaston> ca peut pas planter ce machin
[11:07] <mnem0nic> ya jamais de lease de 1 minutes
[11:08] <mnem0nic> tu le launch toutes les 3-5 minutes
[11:08] <Gaston> et?
[11:08] <Gaston> si il get pas de lease il get pas de lease hein...
[11:08] <mnem0nic> comment �a il get pas de lease ?
[11:08] <Gaston> ben oue il se coupe avant meme de prendre un lease :)
[11:09] <mnem0nic> facile
[11:09] <Gaston> Alkagord> si ca t'int�resse j'ai trouv� le truc pour que dhclient s'identifie comme dhcpcd et winwin
[11:09] <mnem0nic> dhclient -r
[11:09] <mnem0nic> suffit de lire le man :)
[11:09] <Gaston> et ca change quoi?
[11:10] <mnem0nic> Some cable ISPs require their clients to notify the server if they wish to release  an  assigned  IP address.
[11:10] <mnem0nic> The -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the  lease  has  been released, the client exits.
[11:10] <Gaston> je veux pas release
[11:10] <Gaston> je veux betement avoir une IP
[11:10] <Gaston> ensuite c pas un cable ISP c mon LAN :)
[11:10] <mnem0nic> alors tu as un probleme
[11:11] <Gaston> oui
[11:11] <mnem0nic> moi j'ai jamais eu de probleme dhcp en lan (avec dhcliet et isc-dhcpd)
[11:11] <Gaston> et je l'ai d�crit plus haut:
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[11:11] <Gaston> <Gaston> ah trouv�
[11:11] <Gaston> <Gaston> CONFIG_PACKET et CONFIG_FILTER en kernel :)
[11:11] <mnem0nic> tu avais d�sactiv� BPF ?
[11:12] <Gaston> j'avais d�sactiv� tout ce qui est filtering
[11:12] <mnem0nic> :/
[11:12] <Gaston> je n'en voyais pas l'utilit� sur un laptop
[11:12] <mnem0nic> BPF
[11:12] <mnem0nic> c'est requis pour tcpdump
[11:12] <mnem0nic> et d'autres utilitaires
[11:13] <twislawrk> c une debian sur son lap non?
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[11:15] <Gaston> twislawrk> ou�
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[11:19] <twislawrk> ptain
[11:19] <twislawrk> http://www.sgi.com/pdfs/3253.pdf
[11:19] <Physicman> yo
[11:19] <twislawrk> le matos qu'il a fallu pour LOTR :)
[11:19] Action: twislawrk veut une sgi
[11:20] <twislawrk> rah trop merci turboline
[11:20] <twislawrk> pour ici c prevu pour 31/01/03 le 3mbits
[11:21] <mnem0nic> twislawrk> ton Octane 2 suffit pas
[11:21] <mnem0nic> twislawrk> il faut acheter aussi l'Origin 2000 (800 CPUs)
[11:22] <mnem0nic> et la connecter dessus :)
[11:22] <Gaston> mmmh
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[11:22] <Gaston> c inquetant, le ventilo se met en route a 78�C
[11:23] <mnem0nic> le ventillo du portable ?
[11:23] <Gaston> oui
[11:23] <mnem0nic> tu as get le 78�C ou ?
[11:23] <mnem0nic> bios ou util ?
[11:23] <Gaston> dans /proc/acpi/jesaisplusquoi
[11:24] <mnem0nic> donc c'est normal
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[11:24] <Gaston> mais ca va, quand il est idle il est a 55�C
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[11:24] <Gaston> et il ventile donc pas :)
[11:24] <twislawrk> kkun une id�e, un vaio qui veut plus rien afficher sur le tft, mais sur un crt bien
[11:24] <twislawrk> depuis le boot
[11:24] <Gaston> TFT mort?
[11:24] <mnem0nic> Gaston> l'ACPI est exp�rimental sous linux, fait gaffe
[11:24] <twislawrk> chais pas, y le retro eclairage qd meme
[11:24] <Gaston> mnem0nic> ben sans ACPI, le CPU chauffe plein gaz
[11:25] <mnem0nic> 78�C
[11:25] <ZikiAwork> :)
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[11:25] <mnem0nic> � 5 degr�s pret
[11:25] <mnem0nic> c'est la limite du cramage
[11:25] <Xme> re
[11:25] <Gaston> c 95 sur ce cpu la mais bon
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[11:25] <Gaston> faudrait qu eje le fasse bosser sous XP voir si l'air qui sort est aussi chaud
[11:25] <mnem0nic> yep
[11:26] <Gaston> t'as une id�e comme soft qui mange du cpu? :D
[11:26] <twislawrk> photoshop
[11:26] <Gaston> ai pas
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[11:26] <mnem0nic> Gaston> tu as quoi comme gfx board ?
[11:26] <twislawrk> t'as pas ut2k3 � tout hasard ?
[11:26] <Gaston> savage4
[11:26] <`stick> mdr
[11:26] <twislawrk> arf
[11:26] <`stick> ut 2003 c parfait :)
[11:26] <twislawrk> ca ira pas trop alors :)
[11:26] <mnem0nic> Gaston> lanche 3DMark
[11:26] <`stick> bah si
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[11:27] <`stick> tu as un modem rendering NULL
[11:27] <mnem0nic> Gaston> il emulera les effets que la savage fait pas
[11:27] <`stick> pour les cartes de merdes :)
[11:27] <mnem0nic> Gaston> et le cpu travaillera � mort
[11:27] <Gaston> plutot prendre PCMark
[11:27] <mnem0nic> connais pas :)
[11:28] <Gaston> ca a l'air d'�tre un prog de benchmark valable pour les pc de bureau aussi :)
[11:28] <Gaston> pas que pour les gamers
[11:29] <mnem0nic> yep mais le calcul 3D
[11:29] <mnem0nic> c'est ce qui ya de plus gourmand
[11:29] <mnem0nic> en FPU
[11:30] <mnem0nic> d'ou l'int�ret de faire du 'software rendering'
[11:30] <`stick> ;)
[11:30] <Gaston> moi j'veux juste faire chauffer le cpu hein... :)
[11:30] <`stick> bin
[11:30] <`stick> software rendering fieu :)
[11:32] <Gaston> la il fait du jpeg decoding, zlib compression etc :)
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[11:33] <Gaston> et l'air qui sort du ventilo est bien chaud quand meme
[11:34] <mnem0nic> <Gaston> moi j'veux juste faire chauffer le cpu hein... :)
[11:35] <mnem0nic> software rendering != hardware rendering (gfx)
[11:35] <mnem0nic> -> CPU
[11:35] <Gaston> et?
[11:35] <Gaston> un prog qui fait des applics non-graphiques c pas bon pour toi?
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[11:38] <twislawrk> ben
[11:39] <twislawrk> du jpeg decoding chais pas si ca fait autant travailler un cpu que renderifier ut2k3 en soft :/
[11:39] <twislawrk> mais bon
[11:39] <twislawrk> ca t'evite 2.5gb d'install :)
[11:39] <Gaston> ouei :)
[11:40] <Gaston> et euuuh comme le cpu est pas ventil� ca arrivera quand meme aux 78�C
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[11:46] <twislawrk> re
[11:46] <mnem0nic> moi c'est mon alim
[11:46] <mnem0nic> qui chauffre trop
[11:49] <Gaston> ca c normal :)
[11:49] <Gaston> 'fin sauf si ca commence a sentir
[11:51] <mnem0nic> ben
[11:51] <mnem0nic> mon pc vient de s'�teindre
[11:51] <mnem0nic> j'ai du attendre 10 minutes pour le rallumer
[11:51] <mnem0nic> 'fin presque 10 min
[11:51] <Gaston> ah l'alim de ton desktop?
[11:52] <Gaston> faut ptet ajouter des ventilo de boite?
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[11:53] <Champi> personne aurait une id�ee d'un magasin ou je pourrais buy un ecran pour un palm pilot ? je viens de briser le miens
[11:53] <mnem0nic> Gaston> mdr, le PC est ouvert et l'alim � l'ext�rieur
[11:53] <Champi> avanyt de le jeter a la poubelle
[11:54] <mnem0nic> Gaston> et il fait 11�C
[11:54] <mnem0nic> jcroit que l'alim n'a pas aimer cet �t�
[11:55] <Gaston> mnem0nic> t'as pens� a virer la poussiere dedans? :D
[11:55] <Gaston> et euuuh a 11�C c ptet de la condensation
[11:56] <mnem0nic> ben
[11:56] <mnem0nic> l'alim n'a que 6 mois
[11:56] <Gaston> mouais
[11:56] <Gaston> alim pourrie alors :)
[11:57] <Moosh> j'ai recu mon  ups  pour mon serveur.   je  peux le faire  brancher  par  kk'un  une  nuit, et n'installer les  programmes et  le reste que  plus tard ?
[11:57] <Gaston> tu risque d'avoir une coupure net si l'ups arrive en bout de course avant que le courant se r�tablisse
[11:59] <Moosh> Gaston :  non,  le serveur  a  une  utilisation assez  calme la nuit (20x moins qu'en  journ�e) alors je voudrais faire la  coupure du syt�me  a ce moment, juste le temps  de  mettre l'onduleur  entre la prise secteur et la machine
[11:59] <Moosh> mais  ne pas  commencer a installer  tous les softs � 3h du mat
[12:00] <Moosh> j'estime que ca doit �tre faisable mais j'oublie  peut-�tre  quelque chose
[12:00] <mnem0nic> utilisation 20x moins ne veut pas dire 20x moins de consomation
[12:01] <mnem0nic> tu r�cup�res 10W par disque
[12:01] <mnem0nic> et +/- 25-35W par CPU
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[12:02] <Moosh> c pas une question de consomation, j'ai mal pos� ma question : est-ce que mon serveur  peut tourner correctement si  je  lui  mets un  ups  alors que j'ai pas install� les programmes de l'ups
[12:02] <mnem0nic> �videment
[12:02] <mnem0nic> les programmes ne servent
[12:02] <mnem0nic> qu'a shutdown le server
[12:02] <mnem0nic> quand l'ups est �puis�
[12:02] <Moosh> oki (ou a config l'ups)
[12:02] <mnem0nic> non pas � config l'ups
[12:02] <mnem0nic> a recevoir un signa de shutdown de l'ups
[12:03] <mnem0nic> signal
[12:03] <mnem0nic> configurer un UPS, c'est vraiment les UPS Haut de Gamme
[12:03] <mnem0nic> avec Management etc
[12:03] <Moosh> c un MGE � 250 euro
[12:03] <mnem0nic> alors la oui
[12:03] <Moosh> je peux regler le seuil
[12:03] <mnem0nic> ya du Management
[12:04] <Gaston> bah j'suppose que la config par d�faut peut marcher
[12:04] <mnem0nic> yep, et il tient plus longtemps normalement
[12:04] <Moosh> c  Elipse premium 650
[12:05] <Moosh> la doc  dit  55 minutes  pour un petium + un 15'
[12:05] <Moosh> mais  bon c un poweredge que je v mettre dessus  ca va sans doute reduire
[12:05] <Gaston> oue
[12:05] <Gaston> c quoi poweredge?
[12:05] <Moosh> un serveur  Dell
[12:05] <Gaston> bah
[12:06] <Gaston> d�pend de ce qu'il y a dedans
[12:06] <Moosh> bi proc
[12:07] <Moosh> scsi
[12:07] <Gaston> ah oue ca mange bcp plus alors
[12:07] <mnem0nic> Gaston> 15-20 minutes
[12:07] <mnem0nic> Moosh:
[12:07] <mnem0nic> pardon :p
[12:07] <Moosh> mon but avec l'ups, ct plus l'extinction propre que la survie  sans courrant
[12:07] <Gaston> ptet 30, d�pend du rendement de l'alim
[12:08] <Gaston> bon shutdown tu pc, a+
[12:10] <Moosh> comme c le serveur web de icampus,  je v essayer de  faire  un truc  pour que le mirroir prenne le relai (sauf que si j'ai une coupure au serveur,   il y a 95% de chance que le mirroir flanche aussi)
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[15:39] <lint> gnome2 ca prends longtemps a emerg� ?
[15:42] <nail> il me casse les couilles gnome2
[15:42] <nail> c'est tout laid
[15:43] <nail> parce que j'ai mis un theme gtk2
[15:43] <nail> mais toutes les applics gtk1 ben elles sont pas belles
[15:43] <nail> avec des grosses fonts
[15:43] <nail> et je trouvep as ou fouttre le theme
[15:43] <nail> !
[15:43] <`stick> arf
[15:43] <`stick> jai la meme chose :(
[15:43] <nicotine> gnomecc
[15:43] <nicotine> pour le theme gtk1
[15:43] <nail> AHOUAIS?
[15:43] <nicotine> oue :)
[15:44] <twislawrk> mmh
[15:44] <nail> ya pas dans apt-cache
[15:44] <nail> mmmmmm
[15:44] <lint> ca prends du temps a compil sous gentoo ?
[15:44] <twislawrk> gnome-control-center alors
[15:44] <nail> a su
[15:44] <nail> gdkxft-capplet
[15:44] <nail> ca ?
[15:46] <twislawrk> un clone qui boot pas, genre l'alim s'enclenche, mais aucun bruit de hd ni rien, lecteur cd qui s'allume pas, vous pensez que c plutot mobo ds le vent ou alim ?
[15:46] <twislawrk> -s'allume+s'ouvre
[15:46] <twislawrk> moi j'opterais pour la mobo
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[15:52] <twislawrk> ouais d�finitivement mobo morte
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[19:19] <Gaston> un debianiste dans le coin?
[19:19] <Gaston> een debianist in the hoek?
[19:20] <Gaston> s/the/het
[19:21] <Physicman> hmmm?
[19:23] <Casimir> On t'ecoute Gaston
[19:24] <Gaston> la debian testing est-elle d'une stabilit� acceptable?
[19:25] <nail> tant que t'utilises pas gnome, oui :)-
[19:25] <nail> moi je suis en unstable partout
[19:26] <Gaston> euh unstable!=testing mais bon
[19:26] <nail> oui
[19:26] <nail> mais si c'est en testing c'est que c'est pass� par unstable
[19:27] <Gaston> ou� mais bon :)
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[19:27] <nail> ca fait 30 jours que je suis connect� a irc ;)
[19:28] <Casimir> C'est tres stable Gaston meme si ca s'appelle testing ou unstable
[19:28] <Gaston> la unstable n'est certainement pas tres stable :D
[19:28] <Gaston> tk la sid d'avant que la woody ne se stabilise ne l'�tait pas
[19:28] <Casimir> J'ai jamais eu de gros probleme
[19:28] <Gaston> ah moi j'ai jamais su passer le cap de l'installation :)
[19:29] <Casimir> ben tu fais un upgrade de la woddy -> unstable
[19:29] <nail> ben la j'ai aucun probleme, j'ai boot� ya 50 jours, je fais tourner du hosting de mail, web, dns, un xfree en vnc, du streaming
[19:29] <nail> et tout le tointoin
[19:29] <nail> sans jamais relancer un service
[19:29] <nail> si ca peut te rassurer
[19:30] <babelfeev> :)
[19:30] <nail> sur une machine de clochard de surcroit
[19:30] <Casimir> je te crois bien nail :)
[19:31] <Gaston> possible :)
[19:32] <Casimir> je parie que la unstable est encore pus stable que winbrol2000
[19:33] <nail> le seul truc emmerdant avec la unstable juste maintenant
[19:33] <nail> c'est ce probleme avec bonobo
[19:34] <nail> (a moins que ca soit regl� depuis hier?)
[19:34] <Gaston> euhm
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[19:35] <Casimir> pas encore regl� apparement mais si t'installles la version pr�cedente ca marche nickel
[19:36] <nail> oui c'est ce que j'ai fait
[19:36] <Casimir> :)
[19:37] <nail> tu connais une page ou ya moyen d'avoir le status de ce probleme ?
[19:37] <Casimir> y'a un thread sur debianplanet
[19:38] <nail> ok thx
[19:38] <nail> bon, cassos
[19:38] <Casimir> http://www.debianplanet.org/index.php?or=27
[19:41] <flynux> suis sur une sid en workstation, pas de prob :)
[19:42] <Gaston> mmh
[19:42] <Gaston> vais ptet passer en testing (soyons prudent) alors :)
[19:45] <Physicman> a priori je mettrai une workstation en sid plutot qu'en woody ou en sarge
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[20:07] <Abs0|ut> yop
[20:08] <Gaston> yop lulutte
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[20:10] <mnem0nic> yo
[20:11] <Abs0|ut> yop gaga
[20:11] <mnem0nic> yo Abs0|ut
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[21:08] <killertje> :)
[21:08] <the_wiz> ;)
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[21:19] <AiKiiC4> existe-t-il une liste qui me dit � quel device correspond chaque char-major-X-Y ?
[21:25] <flynux> oui
[21:25] <flynux>  /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt
[21:26] <flynux> hum 2 emerge -u world et 2 dist-upgrade en mm temps, les lignes adsl sont pas encore faites pour supporter ca :)
[21:27] <AiKiiC4> ah ou� ok merci
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[21:29] <the_wiz> qq � d�ja test� la distro xandros pr les desktop pc???
[21:32] <Gaston> flynux> bah le emerge alterne compilation et download => ca devrait pas trop foirer :)
[21:50] <flynux> non, mais par contre qu'est ce que ca suce les deb
[21:50] <Gaston> ouei
[21:50] <Gaston> mais ca va vite :)
[21:50] <Gaston> c'est l'avantage de l'incov�gnient
[21:52] <flynux> 2x47Mo
[21:53] <Gaston> tient t'as pas encore pass� ton quota ce mois-ci? :)
[21:54] <flynux> non, malgr� 4-5 divx pomp�s, pas encore d�passe :)
[21:54] <Gaston> bah ca va encore ca :)
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