Subj : telnet_gate
To   : Hemo
From : Digital Man
Date : Tue Sep 19 2000 02:09 pm

RE: telnet_gate
BY: Hemo to Amcleod on Tue Sep 19 2000 07:39 am

> I've found the source of my problem, and the problem is the negotiations tha
> take place between a telnet server and a telnet client before a login prompt
> displayed.  When using telnet_gate to connect to a telnetd or RFC telnet
> server, the telnet server attempts to do negotiations with the client to
> establish some things before a login propmpt gets thrown out.  Since
> telnet_gate is not a telnet client, those negotiations are not getting answe
> and the telnet server never gives a login prompt.  I have verified I _am_
> connecting to the system in question, but these negotiations are not getting
> completed.  The telnet client I am using to connect to Synchronet does not
> respond to these negotiations becuase it is programmed to do the negotiation
> during a connect attempt, not while a connect is already done!

Then your telnet client is broken or misconfigured. Telnet clients are
required to be able to receive telnet option negotiation sequences at ANY TIME.

> The RFC's for telnet are about as bad (reading wise) for any RFC, but I have
> found that reading these in their entirety either gives me a headache or lea
> me

Maybe so, but RFC 854 does state pretty clearly:

 "Option requests are likely to flurry back and forth when a TELNET
  connection is first established, as each party attempts to get the
  best possible service from the other party.  Beyond that, however,
  options can be used to dynamically modify the characteristics of the
  connection to suit changing local conditions."

I suggest trying a different telnet client.

Rob

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