Subj : Re: For you SBBS Sysops o
To   : Accession
From : Gamgee
Date : Sun Jun 30 2024 12:55 pm

-=> Accession wrote to Accession <=-

Ac> On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 04:20:04 -0500, you wrote:

G>> Next time you're bored, spin up a VM with MX Linux (xfce desktop) and
G>> see what you think.  It's about the only one I like any more.

A> Thanks for the heads up, I've downloaded the XFCE as well as the Fluxbox
A> (brings back memories) variants, and will give them a shot in the
A> morning and get back to you.

Ac> Following up on this, both versions are snappy, and installation was a
Ac> breeze. However (and this has been long-standing), I would have to
Ac> spend a good amount of time changing themes, icons, window borders,
Ac> etc. because the stock ones that come with XFCE and Fluxbox are old,
Ac> plain, blacked out, squared corners and just flat out ugly, to me
Ac> anyways (always have been).

Yes, I also change up the theme/cosmetics some, but it's not too bad to
tweak up the way I like it.

Ac> The Fluxbox version is on an older kernel (6.1 compared to 6.6) than
Ac> the XFCE version, which they tout as their flagship. I have always had
Ac> a place for Fluxbox, though. And it looks like now you're able to have
Ac> a decent dash to dock type thing like Gnome uses in there as well. I've
Ac> always liked how you can right click anywhere on the desktop and pull
Ac> up a nice, straightforward application launcher menu. Again, though,
Ac> default window borders and icons leave something to be desired.

I've always found Flux (and similars like blackbox/openbox) to be a
little more minimalistic than I prefer.

Ac> Besides my anal retentiveness on how things actually look, it seems to
Ac> operate nicely, and that's the important part. If I were to ever go
Ac> with a GUI on Linux, it would probably either be a slimmed down version
Ac> of Gnome (if there's still some kind of gnome-light version or
Ac> whatever) in order to try and keep it fast, or I would have to
Ac> completely change up the aesthetics of a default XFCE or Fluxbox
Ac> install.

I think Gnome only comes in the Bloatware size any more.  There may be
some variations though, as I recall in Mint Linux (I think) that you can
choose between "Cinnamon" and "Mate" and the Cinnamon was almost
tolerable for me.  But it's been a while.

Ac> I still imagine as far as speed goes, you're probably better off
Ac> installing a base like Debian, or Archlinux, or Slackware, or whatever
Ac> you're into, and then installing your desktop environment on top of
Ac> that. That way you control what else gets installed after that, since
Ac> most of these distros add their own apps and bloatware that you may
Ac> never actually need. Obviously, people pick these distros to avoid the
Ac> extra work it takes to do all that, and MX definitely seems to be able
Ac> to compete with the rest of them.

You may be right, but I don't see nearly as much "extra" in MX as I have
seen in other distros.  Glad you gave it a look.



... Bug free, cheap, on time, works. Pick two.
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
� Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL