Subj : the nothing to hide a
To : Ogg
From : Boraxman
Date : Mon Feb 14 2022 08:30 pm
Re: the nothing to hide a
By: Ogg to Boraxman on Sun Feb 13 2022 12:13 pm
> when I first participated in email, I was amused that it was so
> easy to route one's email through any particular server that
> would allow it. I believe the technique was using the ! symbol
> (bang path notation). The "net" seemed to be open to the finger
> command too.
>
> The "narrative" from higher-up was not to expect privacy
> before then, I don't think most people expected to have the
> content of their email and activities on the internet
> monitored.
>
> Convenience does seem to trump privacy though. :(
>
> Check out my post here a few months ago:
>
> MID: 723:320/1.9@dovenet f4270dd1
>
> Subject: Privacy is Power: take back your control
> Date: Su 05.09.21, 23:46
>
> The book outlines very practical steps that people can adopt.
They didn't expect it, and when people found out they shrugged their shoulders,
because, well, what can you do? I think we need to change culturally, go back
to valuing discretion. People don't really understand what they are doing
online, and don't consider it an analogue of what happens in your private life.
Take for example meeting people in a pub, you have a conversation. You would
NOT expect the entire world to be able to view that conversation. Maybe others
in the pub will overhear, but it's not searchable. Or you join a Linux Users
Group and you discuss having a BBQ with others at a meeting, again, that would
be just for those in the group, not something that people in Russia or around
your city would find out about. People wouldn't be able to know who went where
and when.
But when it comes to the "internet", we kind of don't apply those standards. A
group is public. Take fsxNet, we were discussing a meet up in Melbourne. This
should be considered something only relevant to those in fsxNet, but you would
(when we plan to), be able to Google search the event, and anyone in the world
would know who went where and when. This doesn't sit right with me, it is very
weird, but we still haven't gotten used to that.
In a way,, I'm advocating a more closed Internet. Web pages, public forums
should remain public, but communication should be, by default, by convention
and politeness, be only for the audience participating.
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