Subj : the nothing to hide a
To : Boraxman
From : Ogg
Date : Sun Feb 13 2022 12:13 pm
Hello Boraxman!
** On Sunday 13.02.22 - 11:01, Boraxman wrote to Ogg:
>> A lament on privacy from 1972..
>>
>>
https://kolico.ca/mpg/TGC1972-privacy.mp4
B> Time to start pushing back, through example.
[...]
B> The mistake was the "open internet", where everything that
B> people did was automatically public. We got to thinking
B> that when we use the "Internet", it must be public. The
B> Internet is really just a means of conveying data packets
B> from one machine to another, and there is nothing which
B> says this should be visible to all.
when I first participated in email, I was amused that it was so
easy to route one's email through any particular server that
would allow it. I believe the technique was using the ! symbol
(bang path notation). The "net" seemed to be open to the finger
command too.
B> We've made ourselves not expect privacy, and therefore
B> don't really deserve it. Back in the 90's, when you
B> messaged on a BBS, is stayed there. Now when you do, it
B> gets broadcast everywhere. This message will be public,
B> even though you have to get an account to post it, and the
B> server (BBS) has to sign up to spread it.
The "narrative" from higher-up was not to expect privacy, but
before then, I don't think most people expected to have the
content of their email and activities on the internet
monitored.
Convenience does seem to trump privacy though. :(
Check out my post here a few months ago:
MID: 723:320/1.9@dovenet f4270dd1
Subject: Privacy is Power: take back your control
Date: Su 05.09.21, 23:46
The book outlines very practical steps that people can adopt.
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