Subj : Turntables and LPs
To : Ogg
From : Nightfox
Date : Thu Sep 16 2021 08:37 am
Re: Turntables and LPs
By: Ogg to Nightfox on Wed Sep 15 2021 11:31 pm
Og>>> laser turntable been around? I had no idea that this was
Og>>> getting explored back in the 80s.[...]
Og> According to the article the first models were about $35K.
Og> Now, they are $10K; that's a pretty good reduction! LOL
That's a good deal then.. :P
Og> What's the point of recording and filing the tracks of an LP
Og> when I can get exactly the same thing from Spotify in download
Og> mode?
I sometimes forget the streaming apps offer a download option. But can you play the downloaded file with any music player app, or can you only use Spotify to play the downloaded file? I somehow doubt they'd just let people freely download music files to be shared and played with any software.. I'd imagine there may be some DRM involved, or locking the file so it can't be played with anything else.
N>> I imagine that may be why some people think vinyl sounds
N>> better.
Og> That's part of it. The early products had a two-fold problem:
Og> the DACs in earlier models were poor, and the mastering of CDs
Og> was not well done.
And over the years, record studios have released remastered CDs of many albums. I tend to replace my old copies with remasters, but honestly I usually can't tell much difference in the sound.
I read an article a while ago saying that with the repeated remasters over the years, one thing they've tended to do is increase the volume, which has the negative effect of reducing the sound quality. Volume increases on remasters is something I haven't really noticed much, but probably because I haven't paid much attention..
Og> This article is a good read and explains some issues that even
Og> persist to this day:
Og>
http://www.audiodrom.net/en/as-we-see-it-tips-thoughts/65-road-
Og> to-hell
That's interesting.. And as I've occasionally digitized a few of my cassette tapes (they were music unavailable on CD as well as some personal recordings), I find that kind of thing interesting.
N>> I've heard of that being done too. I think it would be
N>> interesting to have a music collection in the form of
N>> photos (as PNGs or JPGs) rather than audio files. I wonder
N>> if you could even save some drive space that way.. I
N>> wonder if a photo of a vinyl album would be smaller than
N>> individual FLAC or MP3 files for the same album.
Og> I wonder about the data-sizes with the photo approach too.
Og> The key here is to extract the data established by the vinyl
Og> grooves and store it in digital format for repeat listens. But
Og> the designers of those players aren't thinking of that for the
Og> player; they are wanting to replicate the real-time play of the
Og> vinyl, at each and every play.
If you extract the data from the photos and save them, you're back at having a collection of MP3 and/or FLAC audio files (or perhaps some other audio format).
Nightfox
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