Subj : Re: Quarantine projects
To   : Vk3jed
From : Moondog
Date : Thu Apr 23 2020 04:32 pm

 Re: Re: Quarantine projects
 By: Vk3jed to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 23 2020 11:07 am

> -=> On 04-22-20 12:38, Mike Powell wrote to VK3JED <=-
>
>  MP> The Federal government issues guidelines here also.  It is up to the
>  MP> states whether or not they enforce them locally, and some states have
>  MP> gone over and above.  Actually, sounds pretty much like what you
>  MP> described.  :)
>
> A lot more consistency here.  The Federal guidelines are actually worked on
> a special Cabinet made up of the Prime Minister, state Premiers and territor
> Chief Ministers, at least, so the states are directly involved in the proces
>
>  >Here, we're not allowed to gether in groups more than 2 and nonessential
> travel
>
>  >is banned, though what's determined as nonessential (i.e. whether it falls
> into
>
>  >one of the 4 permitted categories) is sometimes up to the police.  The 4
>  >categories are:
>
>  MP> Here, that depends on what state you are in and, in some cases, what
>  MP> city. Louisville is apparently being pretty strict on the gathering in
>  MP> groups, where I believe the state level directive is that we are
>  MP> discouraged to do so.  We are also requested not to travel unless it is
>  MP> for one of the essential reasons but, again, in this state we are not
>  MP> on as strict of a lockdown as others so I don't think that is being
>  MP> enforced.  What is being enforced is the closure of several types of
>  MP> business and other locations (like parks) in an effort to discourage
>  MP> travel and gatherings.
>
> There's a lot more consistency here.  As for types of business, there's a li
> of "high risk" businesses that were forced to close - basically places where
> there's likely large scale close contact or high people traffic.  Other
> businesses work on a case by case basis, provided they adhere to the social
> distancing rules.  Some businesses trade with restrictions on the number of
> people in store, some have gone to online orders only, some have closed down
> for the time being.  Many have added online offerings to their traditional
> methods.
>
> And some businesses in the "prohibited" category are still trading, by ceasi
> only those activities that are prohibited.  For example, many cafes have
> switched to offering take away coffee and food, which is allowed, but have
> stopped their sit in dining.  Even pubs have taken to offering take away/hom
> delivery of their meals, which is a new thing, because pubs are very much a
> in tradition for dining.
>
>  MP> Within the past week or two, our city did pass an ordanace banning more
>  MP> than one householdmember being in the grocery at one time (with
>  MP> exceptions for those who require assistance), and the state followed
>  MP> suit a few days later.  That is being enforced by the stores.
>
> We don't have that one here.  However, the major supermarkets have taken it
> upon themselves to offer special trading hours for vulnerable people (those
> a disability or aged pension, etc) and emergency service workers.
>
>  MP> They have closed parks and playgrounds in some of the larger cities
>  MP> here in Kentucky for the same reason.  I have also found a benefit of
>
> Yes, playgrounds are closed, because of the potential for transmission from
> shared equipment.  Parks are dealt with on a case by case basis by local
> government.
>
>  MP> walking during my 15 minute workbreaks here at home vs. at the
>  MP> office... it is not all flat here.  :)
>
> Getting fit, are we? :D
>
>  >The US is a lot more casual than Australia too, but while the restrictions
> re
>  >causing economic chaos, people are largely in support of them, as we are
> seeing
>
>  >dramatic effects on the infection rate.  We still have a while to go, as t
>  >government is keen to avoid the "rebound" that has been seen in other
>  >countries.
>
>  MP> I am concerned that we are going to get a rebound no matter what and we
>  MP> are just putting off the inevitable.
>
> I think we can avoid a rebound over here with careful management.
>
>
>  MP>  * SLMR 2.1a * clap on (CLAP!CLAP!) clap off (CLAP!)    NO CARRIER
>
> Haha an old classic. :D
>
>
> ... All's well that ends.

Sad part is people don't see the responsible side of freedom in the form of
self control.

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