Subj : Re: Quarantine projects
To : Mike Powell
From : Vk3jed
Date : Tue Apr 21 2020 04:03 pm
-=> On 04-20-20 15:27, Mike Powell wrote to VK3JED <=-
MP> @VIA: VERT/CAPCITY2
>Hmm, OK. Still, the US seems to be taking it more casually for the number of
>cases compared to here.
MP> That is because, in the US, those decisions are mostly being made at
MP> the state and local levels. Some states closed in-person dining a lot
MP> sooner than others (some may not have closed it at all), as an example.
Ineresting. Here, the states and federal government have regular meetings, to
plan the response to COVID. The Federal government usually issue guidelines,
which the states have the power to enforce. Some states have gone over and
above the guidelines and tighten things a bit more. Obviously, issues like
immigration are handled at national level, though most states have also
implemented their own internal border closures and quarantine.
MP> Some states have closed schools and most business but have not asked
MP> their citizens to shelter in place/lockdown... since most business are
MP> closed, there are not many places to go. Our state has done that, and
MP> has also asked that we not gather in groups. Enforcement on that last
MP> bit depends on where you are... the big cities are policing this more
MP> than the smaller ones.
Here, we're not allowed to gether in groups more than 2 and nonessential travel
is banned, though what's determined as nonessential (i.e. whether it falls into
one of the 4 permitted categories) is sometimes up to the police. The 4
categories are:
Obtaining supplies (i.e. supermarket shopping, etc)
Medical (doctor, hospital, pharmacy, etc)
Work/school (where work or school at home aren't an option - doing these at
home are the preferred option)
Exercise.
MP> We are allowed to be out in public just as long as we are distancing
MP> and are not gathering in groups. They have had to crack down on a
MP> church or two for holding in-person services and other large-group
MP> gatherings.
The authorities have closed venues where people haven't been following the
rules. Local councils have made their own decisions. Luckily, the athletics
track isn't totally closed, though only those of us with entry cards can use it
now, provided we stick to the rules. But because the track is across town, I
do the bulk of my sessions around here in the streets. In some ways that's had
some bonuses, like being able to do some really good hill sessions that aren't
possible at the track.
MP> Last I heard, the US as a whole is a little more casual than Canada,
MP> but a quite a bit *less* casual than Mexico, Brazil, or Sweden, where
MP> they have apparently closed nothing.
The US is a lot more casual than Australia too, but while the restrictions are
causing economic chaos, people are largely in support of them, as we are seeing
dramatic effects on the infection rate. We still have a while to go, as the
government is keen to avoid the "rebound" that has been seen in other
ountries.
... Just in one of my moods. I think that helped
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