Subj : ARDC/IP Address
To   : echicken
From : kk4qbn
Date : Wed Aug 21 2024 05:46 pm

 Re: ARDC/IP Address
 By: echicken to kk4qbn on Wed Aug 21 2024 15:05:55

ec> I believe Cyan still has some address space from them that he uses. You'd
ec> know him as the guy who wrote the Synchronet IRCD. If you can get in touch

Yea, I know of him. Appreciate that.

ec> A bit of scandal a few years back when ARDC sold off a chunk of the
ec> address space to (I think) Amazon. Partly just on principle, partly with
ec> the question being raised of whether they even had the ownership/right to
ec> do so. They've since been using the proceeds to fund a grant, and if you
ec> have a cool digital ham radio project in mind you can apply for some of
ec> that money.

Yes, When I had first read about this it really kinda pissed me off.. I mean regardless of whether they administer them or not, who gave them the right to auction these off, and these were supposedly for amateur radio operators, and the WHOLE premise behind this is suppose to be NON PROFIT, and now these guys are swimming in money from this and appointing themselves the ones to decide whether we (the people who are suppose to have these IP addresses) get it or not, then if we do get it, we have to answer to them and fill them in every step of the way with what is done with this money.

I get it, the range was under-utilized so hey, lets sell some off.. BUT i'm willing to bet there are TONS of amateur radio operators out there who have no idea they even exist.. It's not like they are openly trying to tell anyone. I knew nothing about it until I had first saw the news story about them selling some of it off.

So I pretty much think, heck if I cant get some of that money from the sell, I might as well grab these up while I can before I may not even have the option to later in the future because they decided they need to sell more..

and I really suggest others do it too. seems like some dirty politics here, I'm sure the ARRL has or had some decision making in this, and has gotten some nice operating funds off of it.

ec> I guess I'm okay with it if they manage the money well and use it to
ec> benefit the hobby in perpetuity. Time will tell. Most of that address
ec> space was going unused, after all. We lose radio spectrum if we don't use
ec> it too, and with less direct benefit from the proceeds of the sale.

I hope that is what is going to happen, but you know how that is. It just seems any originization these days loves playing dirty pool, and I have seen some real dirty politics going on in the ARRL and a lot of these ham radio clubs. awful for people saying they are trying to better the communities they are in with their hobbie. anytime money is involved all bets ar off.

So folks get out there, use that spectrum, get them IP's don't let the big guys take away what is ours. You know they will..
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Tim (kk4qbn)
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