Subj : Re: 30 super - opinions?
To : Gamgee
From : Moondog
Date : Sat Aug 13 2022 11:54 pm
Re: Re: 30 super - opinions?
By: Gamgee to Moondog on Sat Aug 13 2022 06:33 pm
> -=> Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-
>
> > Mo> I think we might've grazed over it awhile back, but there is a
> > Mo> new cartridge that came out early this year called 30 super.
> > Mo> It's a lighter lesser diameter bullet than the 9mm, but the case
> > Mo> is longer. Their about the same legth, except for the case
> > Mo> diameter is smaller. A .308" 110 grain bullet versus a 124 grain
> > Mo> or greater .356" diameter projectile. Velocity is higher, which
> > Mo> makes up for the lack of size. In an S&W Shield+, capacity is 13
> > Mo> rounds compared to 7 rounds of 9mm. A slightly extended mag
> > Mo> which offers more to hold on to provides 16 round capacity.
> > Mo> Federal , Remington, Seepr, CCI and Hornady are all offering the
> > Mo> round, so it's not like looking for 5.7 or 22TCM.
>
> > I won't be getting one any time soon. In my personal opinion, I don't
> > want to carry anything weaker than a 9mm. The *only* advantage that I
> > can see this cartridge providing is higher magazine capacity. I've
> > already solved that by upgrading my S&W Shield to a Shield Plus.
>
> > Honestly the only way I see this being beneficial is to a .380 Auto user
> > who wants a little more punch, but doesn't want to go "all the way" to a
> > 9mm ... (which is a little strange).
> >
> > Here a a couple of decent reviews:
> >
> >
https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/30-super-carry-vs-9mm-ammo-face-off/
> >
> >
https://gununiversity.com/30-super-carry/
>
> Mo> I've been trying to find reloading data on it, and disocvered it
> Mo> has a .312 diameter round rather than the .308 as I expected. A
> Mo> couple of reloading die manufacturers make sizing dies, but the
> Mo> powder charge data isn't officialy available. Some compare the
> Mo> cartridge to 30 Luger or 32 H&R, which have been around as long
> Mo> as if longer than 9mm. The factories use custom powder blends
> Mo> that are not the same as cannister powders available to hand
> Mo> loaders, and can squeeze more velocity under safe pressures. I
> Mo> was hoping they would use .308 bullets, since I have a bunch of
> Mo> 110gr projectiles intended for 30 Carbine. I have been loading
> Mo> them as varmint loads in .308 Winchester. Well, so much
> Mo> for adopting a cartridge based on existing supplies...
>
> Might be a blessing in disguise. I think this cartridge isn't going to
> take off, and will fade away quietly. I don't see it offering anything
> really useful to anyone.
>
>
>
> ... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
Time will tell. I know someone who swears by his .327 Federal Magnum being a
nice light, but lethal round. Today i stopped by Rural King, and they had
.30 Super in stock. it's ironic I did this research because I knew more than
the sale clerks about it. They had nothing under the glass that chambered
it, but down the road there was a shop that had moth 30 Super and 327 Federal
chambered pistols in stock.
Either way, I doubt I will be adopting it, nor picking up any ammo at this
moment. Prices are still too high for me. 9mm ball ammo was selling for .50
a round. I'm more comfortable when it is .20 a round. I can reload .40 S&W f
or .26 a round with what I have in components I bought before things got
crazy.
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