Subj : Re: 30 super - opinions?
To : Moondog
From : Gamgee
Date : Sat Aug 13 2022 06:33 pm
-=> Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-
> Mo> I think we might've grazed over it awhile back, but there is a
> Mo> new cartridge that came out early this year called 30 super.
> Mo> It's a lighter lesser diameter bullet than the 9mm, but the case
> Mo> is longer. Their about the same legth, except for the case
> Mo> diameter is smaller. A .308" 110 grain bullet versus a 124 grain
> Mo> or greater .356" diameter projectile. Velocity is higher, which
> Mo> makes up for the lack of size. In an S&W Shield+, capacity is 13
> Mo> rounds compared to 7 rounds of 9mm. A slightly extended mag
> Mo> which offers more to hold on to provides 16 round capacity.
> Mo> Federal , Remington, Seepr, CCI and Hornady are all offering the
> Mo> round, so it's not like looking for 5.7 or 22TCM.
> I won't be getting one any time soon. In my personal opinion, I don't
> want to carry anything weaker than a 9mm. The *only* advantage that I
> can see this cartridge providing is higher magazine capacity. I've
> already solved that by upgrading my S&W Shield to a Shield Plus.
> Honestly the only way I see this being beneficial is to a .380 Auto user
> who wants a little more punch, but doesn't want to go "all the way" to a
> 9mm ... (which is a little strange).
>
> Here a a couple of decent reviews:
>
>
https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/30-super-carry-vs-9mm-ammo-face-off/
>
>
https://gununiversity.com/30-super-carry/
Mo> I've been trying to find reloading data on it, and disocvered it
Mo> has a .312 diameter round rather than the .308 as I expected. A
Mo> couple of reloading die manufacturers make sizing dies, but the
Mo> powder charge data isn't officialy available. Some compare the
Mo> cartridge to 30 Luger or 32 H&R, which have been around as long
Mo> as if longer than 9mm. The factories use custom powder blends
Mo> that are not the same as cannister powders available to hand
Mo> loaders, and can squeeze more velocity under safe pressures. I
Mo> was hoping they would use .308 bullets, since I have a bunch of
Mo> 110gr projectiles intended for 30 Carbine. I have been loading
Mo> them as varmint loads in .308 Winchester. Well, so much
Mo> for adopting a cartridge based on existing supplies...
Might be a blessing in disguise. I think this cartridge isn't going to
take off, and will fade away quietly. I don't see it offering anything
really useful to anyone.
... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
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