Subj : Re: free speech
To   : Arelor
From : Boraxman
Date : Sat Jun 07 2025 10:22 am

-=> Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

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Ar>   Re: Re: free speech
Ar>   By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor
Ar> on Wed Jun 04 2025 05:13 pm

>
>  I'd claim that the claim to authority is valid, but grift, while
>  damaging isn't a reason to deny the claim.
>

Ar> It is easy.

Ar> In a modern nation-state it is understood that the legitimacy of
Ar> authority comes from the fact they represent the interests of the
Ar> people, who delegates power in the government. I don't agrtee but let's
Ar> follow with the argument.

Ar> If a government does NOT represent the interest of the voters then you
Ar> cannot say they are using the power the people delegated on it as
Ar> intended. If they are outright abusing such power and not representing
Ar> the people then they don't get to claim they work with the authority of
Ar> the people and therefore nobody must take their ethical claims
Ar> seriously.

I would go one further.

If the government is acting against the interests of the nation, and
by that I specifically mean its people, then it is *treasonous* and
should be treated as such.

A government that treats its people as hostile, has not only lost its
legitimacy, but its right to continue.  The people would be right to
treat it as an enemy.

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