Subj : Re: race
To : Boraxman
From : Nightfox
Date : Sun Jun 01 2025 01:30 pm
Re: Re: race
By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Sun Jun 01 2025 12:12 pm
Bo> Maybe this is a speficially American thing, where you are taught that
Bo> you have no identity? Elsewhere around the world, this is not a
Bo> question. I'm in Australia, but from Southern European heritage, and I
Bo> can tell you in my ancestral country, there is utterly no question at
Bo> all of who "we" are. They consider me one of them, even though I was
Bo> born in Australia.
Bo> I'm thinking you are in the USA? Empires tend to think like this.
Yes, I'm in the US. And it's not that we're taught that we have no identity (I'm not sure where that came across in my last post); our identity is that we're Americans.
And people in the US do identify with their heritage too. People in the US often say they're Italian-American, Irish-American, German-American, etc.. And often they just shorten it and say they're Italian, Irish, German, etc. And I've seen a lot of posts online where people say they think people from the US shouldn't say that - Mainly because the people saying that were born & grew up in the US and have never actually been to the places they say they identify with. Maybe it's just semantics. I thought that was mainly an American thing where people talk about themselves like that, as it sounded like it's not something people in other countries do.
Pesonally I'm a mix, mostly of several different European countries, and a small amount of Native American. I think it makes the most sense for me to say I'm American, as even if I count my heritage, I couldn't say just one country.
Bo> The difference then is that countries like Mexico, Brazil, Peru,
Bo> Nicaragua, all those central American countries which people seem to be
Bo> seeking to flee to go to the USA illegally, are "Blended". You may not
Bo> have seen much focus on race, but I've heard differently, including from
Bo> people who lived there. I think it is clear which approach is better.
Bo> You can tell from where people are moving from, and where they want to
Bo> move to. The British approach is clearly better.
I'm not entirely sure how that's better.. It sounds like it's for the argument of tracking people, and I feel like that's very Orwellian from the book '1984'.
Bo> As for MLK, he was a product of his time. This post WWII ideal is in my
Bo> view, dead, and should be buried. I still cannot believe people are
Bo> pushing for this social message. I put it down to people who just
Bo> haven't realised the world has changed, and still think its the late
Bo> 20th century.
Bo> Ask the Whites in South Africa how things are going. Ask Australias
Bo> how the mass immigration is working out. Or the English.
Why just the whites? It feels wrong to me to talk about a country being a "white country", etc.. I feel like it's a sort of racist ideology.
Nightfox
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