Subj : Re: Most memorable modern
To   : Arelor
From : Boraxman
Date : Wed May 28 2025 09:19 am

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Ar>   Re: Re: Most memorable modern
Ar>   By: Boraxman to MRO on Sat
Ar> May 24 2025 12:08 am

> I can't see any justifiable reason for this "I can fire someone
> because they have views I don't like" argument, except a very childish
> and immature inability to deal with other people.  That is YOUR
> problem.  It is not the employees problem, and it is certaintly not
> something the state should accomodate.

Ar> Well, it boils down to acknowledging that having the State telling you
Ar> which reasons are justifiable for contract termination is dangerous,
Ar> because when the list becomes too complex to understand, employers
Ar> cease employing people altogether. aka. welcome to Spain. Also, as
Ar> things stand, that sort of thing tends to become weaponized
Ar> politically.

Ar> Honestly, the reasonable way to solve it as an employees is just not
Ar> applying to positions at firms that seem likely to pull such a dick
Ar> move to begin with. The firms that do usually advertise themselves as
Ar> virtue signaling scumbags openly so they are easy enough to avoid. When
Ar> I was doing research for magazine publishers I could skip about half
Ar> the available ones just because they seemed like the sort of people who
Ar> would resort to ideological assassination. Frankly, if you are working
Ar> in such firm and they decide they want to kick you out, the worst thing
Ar> that can happen is the State prevents them from firing you, because you
Ar> end up working in a position nobody wants to keep you in.

And this is why the left wing extremists win.

Because the other sides solution is to "avoid" and "move on".  Eventually you
run out of places to run to.  You may as well just hand them Western
civilisation to tear apart...

When you constantly retreat, you LOSE.  You are
advocating for our own emisseration.

I'm convinced half the reason we are in this mess, is because the "opposition"
just think they make chose their way out.

No, they have to be removed from *our* institutions.

I think you have it backwards.  It is the employer in the wrong.  They are
suddenly terminating a contract for reasons that have *nothing* to do with the
contractual requirements.   The employee certaintly has grounds to argue that
the termination was unjust!  All the state is doing, is ensuring that the
termination of the contract is just, as would be the case in any other
contractual dispute.  To argue that the state shouldn'be be involved is absurd,
as all contracts are valid because the state considers them valid.  Thats why
you can't be my slave, because such a contract is not valid.

PRotecting the employee is simply a matter of
1) Acknowledging the reality that if a contractor is fulfilling a contract, and
the contractee requires the contract fulfilled, then arbitrary termination must
be justified, and if not, compensation is wrranted.
2) It is a breach of human rights to have a contract which infringes free
speech, and such contracts are not legal, just in the same way a contract of
slavery is not legal.


... BoraxMan
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