Subj : Re: race
To : jimmylogan
From : Boraxman
Date : Sat May 24 2025 12:53 pm
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Bo> Re: race
Bo> By: jimmylogan to Gamgee on Tue May 20 2025 08:38 pm
Bo> Witness today "scientists" now saying that sex is not a binary, that
Bo> the spectrum is real. Even popularisers like Neil Degrasse Tyson and
Bo> Bill Nye have supported this. Science has always been willing to
Bo> support whatever the regime needed.
ji> Another great example of 'scientists' saying things, based
ji> on ideals rather than facts.
Bo> The answer is obviously yes, as we use race ALL THE TIME. Even those
Bo> who say race does not exist, use it ALL THE TIME. Now, whether it
Bo> should be called "Race" or "ethnicity" or "group", well, thats just
Bo> semantics.
ji> This I agree with. I think 'race' is a bad term. Cultural
ji> group or something like that is better, in my opinion.
ji> There are no 'white' people nor 'black' people. We all
ji> have different levels of melanin in our bodies, so we
ji> have different skin TONE. Some are darker; some are
ji> lighter.
I think the 'lay person" understanding, is correct. When I say "lay
person" I mean those who aren't trying to abide by a Politically
Correct view. People, free of any particular ideological motivation
reflexively understand, that Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans kind
of belong to two distrinct groups, and within those, there are sub
groups. Nobody would see Greeks, Italians, Chinese and Japanese, and
see four wholly distinct groups, they would see two sets of two. This
shows two levels of clustering. Clearly observable.
Now, its true that in in previous centures, specific categorisations
of "Race" were flawed, but I don't think the concept was, only the
specific application. Its still in use today, albeit updated with new
anthropoligical learnings. A good example is phrenology and
physignomy. Physignomy does have legitimacy, but phrenology, which
was an extreme example of this taken too far, was debunked. However
this didn't mean that someones physical appearance says nothing about
their character.
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