Subj : Re: race
To : jimmylogan
From : Boraxman
Date : Sat May 24 2025 12:37 pm
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Bo> If I tell you "Robert is Black, Harrison is White and Li is Asian",
Bo> and then I
Bo> give you a photo of three men, people WILL be able to tell who is who
Bo> just from
Bo> those descriptors alone. Even if I photoshop everyone to have the
Bo> same skin
Bo> colour, you'll still be able to tell.
ji> Yep - because we have been taught that dark skin = black race;
ji> light skin = white race; etc.
ji> And yeah, change the skin tone and you'll likely have an easy
ji> time telling from facial features, unless you are looking
ji> at a third or fourth generation 'mixed race.' In that case,
ji> I dare say they may not be as easy to spot!
The "race is just a pigment of your imagination" was designed to
changes peoples attitudes, but it was the wrong approach. You can't
lie to people to change their attitudes, because they'll realise the
lie, and discard the lesson that accompanied the lie.
We would have been better off being honest about race, acknowledging
that racial differences are real, and just trying to work out the best
way to manage that reality.
Some argue that when we all become "mixed" then this won't be an
issue, but that is a horrendous idea, and I think has a deeper, underlying evil
motivation behind it.
Bo> This means that race exists. When people select actors for an
Bo> advertisement, for "Diversity", they select on race.
Bo> You cannot then argue it does not exist, when people use racial
Bo> signifiers ROUTINELY and SUCCESSFULLY to categorise people.
ji> My point is that they should NOT do this. People should be
ji> identified by how they ARE and not how they LOOK.
Now it is incorrect to attribute a specific racial stereotype to an
individual, if that is what you mean. However you obviously can tell
peoples ancestry from sight alone. You'd know I'm European, and not
Asian or African or Australian Aboriginal by looking at me.
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