Subj : free speech
To : MRO
From : jimmylogan
Date : Tue May 20 2025 08:38 pm
-=> MRO wrote to Boraxman <=-
MR> I'm not sure how i feel about free speech in the workplace. if i was
MR> out in the public and heading some kkk rally does my company have a
MR> right to get rid of me if they don't support my views or they think i
MR> don't support theirs?
Interesting that you mention the KKK. I was talking to a friend
who said a Swastika flag was 'hate speech.' I said it's still
FREE speech. You don't have to like it.
He asked how I'd feel if my neighbor put one up. I said as long
as it's on HIS property, doesn't matter if I LIKE it or not,
it's not really my business.
He didn't agree... He said it should be banned. He went on
to say that the Rebel Flag should be banned as well from
any part of public view, because it is considered hate
speech to some.
I personally disagreed with this and said ANYTHING can be
called 'hate speech' by ANYONE, so in effect you are
banning ANYTHING except what is approved... And who is
doing the approving?
I told him the Gay Pride 'rainbow' flag could be called
"hate speech" but he said I was wrong about that. If
you don't like it, you're in the wrong, but if you
don't like <insert Nazi, Rebel, whatever> flag then you
are NOT guilty of hate speech.
So in that respect, where is the personal liberty?
Now to be clear, just because I CAN legally hang a
flag that might offend someone, doesn't mean I am
going to, but that longer answer probably belongs in
a differnt echo... ;-)
MR> I wouldn't blame them for getting rid of a person like that but also
MR> there seems to be a bunch of witch hunts that people enjoy.
The thing is, where do you draw the line? If it's the KKK, I
agree - I wouldn't trust those people either, and I believe
it's NOT a good thing, but someone else might see something I
like as offensive to them. Just because one person thinks my
'nativity' on my lawn at Christmas is offensive, does that
mean it should be considered 'hate speech?'
My point here is that we either have freedom of expression,
even things that people don't like, or we do not. And who
makes the decision on what is 'allowed' and what is banned?
MR> We like to cancel people.
MR> in my old town there was a witch hunt thing over google reviews and a
MR> bar. and people ended up making up stories that the owner sexually
MR> assaulted people. people got together online and made up stories and
MR> even went to the court about it when he was having a license review. I
MR> was even contacted online to make up a story and show up.
MR> Some nuts were even saying the owner was going to poison them when he
MR> had an event where he did free booze. That's just horrible and ugly.
That's just sad.
MR> i think the human race is basically at war with itself. our monkey
MR> brains and human brains can't figure shit out. ---
I agree with you! Humans are basically evil, not basically good.
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