Subj : Re: Most memorable modern
To : MRO
From : Boraxman
Date : Thu May 15 2025 08:24 am
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MR> Re: Re: Most memorable modern
MR> By: Arelor to Cougar428 on Wed May 14 2025 08:10 am
> Re: Re: Most memorable modern
> By: Cougar428 to BORAXMAN on Fri May 09 2025 09:23 am
>
> > If you do anything on the web, it's pretty much public information. So
> > really the only way to stay private is to not participate in anything.
> > Whether it is worth it to you, that's another matter. Do the pro's
> > outweigh the cons...
>
> I think this is lamb mentality.
>
> My experience is that most people who don't want to take good operational
> security practices love to just skip them altogether and then use the "we
> are doomed anyway" line as an excuse.
>
MR> i'm a secure guy pretty much but i also realize that anything we do on
MR> the internet is forever. and people in the past that thought they were
MR> secure and private have been caught when wrong doing.
MR> we have no true undestanding of the technology that world govts have or
MR> even really good private professionals. maybe what you think is the
MR> height of security can be defeated in minutes. There's no way of
MR> knowing, except for past examples of where people thought they were
MR> secure, but caught.
MR> now i'm not a criminal nor do i think any of us are criminals, but
MR> still, if you think you're secure on a world wide network of computers,
MR> you're fooling yourself. ---
I previously had to deal with IT securty. What you are missing is where
threats
come from. A problem I see all the time, is people assuming that the state is
the ONLY threat. That is, if the NSA or what-have-you could potentially at
some
point get information, there is no point.
I have to drum this foolishness out of peoples heads. There are multiple
threats, and privacy efforts can thwart many of the common ones. Encrypting
your hard drive means a LOT if you leave your laptop on the train, as the
person
who picks it up, is almost certaintly not going to have the entire computing
apparatus of a government spy agency at their disposal. Same for a compromised
e-mail account, a dropped USB key, an errant program or root-kit.
People have been caught out because they had little to no understanding about
security. Criminals making stupid simple mistakes. Not bothering to hide
anything. Most of how law enforcement get information, is simply through bad
OpSec on behalf of the crims.
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