Subj : Re: Star Trek
To   : Nightfox
From : Boraxman
Date : Fri May 09 2025 08:12 am

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Ni>   Re: Re: Most memorable modern
Ni>   By: Boraxman to DaiTengu on
Ni> Thu May 08 2025 09:27 pm

Ni>  Bo>  Depict whatever you like in fiction, but be clear of the
Ni> difference
Bo>  between what works in fiction and what works in reality.  Anyone can
Bo>  make their ideals work in fiction and convince people that real life
Bo>  would work according to their rules.

Ni> I think everyone understands that work a fiction is not reality. It's
Ni> pretty clear and understood what works in fiction, as it doesn't
Ni> necessarily represent reality.

Ni> I've enjoyed watching Star Trek as it represents what we could be, but
Ni> I feel like it's also good entertainment.

Ni> If you've only watched the original series, maybe give some of the
Ni> other Star Trek series a try (maybe Deep Space 9) but it sounds like it
Ni> might not be your thing.

I don't think everyone does understand the difference between reality and
idealism.  If people by and large did, we wouldn't have such an absurd amount
of
propaganda and messaging and absolute relentless portrayals of the "ideal
future".  Almost every single ad on TV is now "Star Trek".  You'll barely see a
family on a TV advert that isn't mixed race.  Its a completely manufactured
image to try and sell a future.  Almost all corporate messaging is
deliberately tuned to present this ideal.  It sounds innocent, but people
actually do honestly base their politics on works of fiction.  Another example
is Ayn Rand, there are people who honestly make political decisions, based on
her fiction.  They think the world works the way it does in Atlas Shrugged.

Note, this is different to a work with a moral in it (like Aesops fables), or a
warning (Crime and Punishment).

I think the first Star Trek series I watched was The Next Generation, in the
early 90s.   I didn't actually know there had been an earlier series.  I
thought
at the time that "Star Trek" prior to that was just the movies.  I stumbled
onto
the original series later, and it was different.  Star Trek the original series
was more of a space adventure, with heroism and exploration.  The Next
Generation had that element, but also was more "beaurocratic".  I watched an
episode of Voyager or two, but it seemed the franchise had become more about
the
Star Trek Universe than adventure itself.  At least that is my impression,
others will see things differently.  Deep Space 9 didn't interest me at all.




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