Subj : Re: Most memorable modern
To   : DaiTengu
From : Boraxman
Date : Thu May 08 2025 09:27 pm

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Da>   Re: Re: Most memorable modern
Da>   By: Boraxman to Jimmy Anderson
Da> on Thu May 08 2025 11:42 am

Bo> Star Trek is baby boomer claptrap.  Their vision of the future is Hippie
Bo> idealism, and that view of the future and ideology should go in the
Bo> dustbin where it belongs...

Bo> They were so, so arrogant to think they could make work, what has failed
Bo> throughout all of human history. The conceit they had is incredible.


Da> You don't understand the difference between a dystopian future and a
Da> utopian future.

Da> It's not "baby boomer claptrap"

Da> Star Trek is fully automated, luxury, gay, space-communism.

I understand the difference between fantasy and reality.

Depict whatever you like in fiction, but be clear of the difference
between what works in fiction and what works in reality.  Anyone can
make their ideals work in fiction and convince people that real life
would work according to their rules. *Atlas Shrugged* *cough* Trouble
happens when people insist that the fictional ideology WOULD work, if
only it were for said "bad" people ruining it.  Therein lies danger,
and issues which younger people today are having to bear the brunt of,
and future generations are going to be emisserated by.  I think it is
quite likely that in some Western countries, blood will literally be
shed as a result of these social experiments of the 20th century going
wrong.

As I said in another post, my comment came of harsh, after all, people
back then didn't see the end result of their social experiment, and I
do enjoy the first series of Star Trek.

I think it's also fair to say they SHOULD have known better.
Communism was already a proven deadly failure, and the dream of a "one
world" is an old one with a bad history.  So yeah, it seems a bit
conceited to me to think you can suceed where everyone else failed.
You will have to understand that younger people are going to reject
these utopians ideals more and more as their lives are emisserated by
it.

The hippie ideals didn't pan out, but they insist its not they
who were wrong, but everyone else.  Its always the "idealists" that
cause trouble.  The most deadly belief system of the 20th century was
"utopian".

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