Subj : Re: Most memorable modern
To : MRO
From : Snobsoft
Date : Fri May 02 2025 02:32 am
Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: MRO to Boraxman on Thu May 01 2025 01:11 am
> reddit is real shitty and it's
> mostly
> liberals. they also have bots that
> downvote people into oblivion . i
> havent seen that in a while, though.
> it's basically ahole liberal nazis.
What I really miss is the culture of discussion we had here in Germany back in the 80s and 90s (also in BBS, later Fido, and Usenet). I don't know how it was or is in the USA, but here, things have dramatically worsened over the last 10 to 5 years (especially since COVID) in terms of freedom of speech � particularly online. Nowadays, in Germany, even sharing a harsh joke (a meme) about a politician can be enough to get a house search.
Unbelievable. Look up "Apollo News" and "Schwachkopf". This kind of treatment of government critics is something you'd expect only in dictatorships. Hey, the book 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.
I've also noticed that the moderation in a Reddit group I'm in is terrible. But I don't waste my time getting worked up about it.
Interesting that you used the term "liberal" above. I think it has a different meaning for you than it does here in Germany. Here, "liberal" is generally seen as positive�associated with freedom. The problem we're facing (as mentioned above) clearly comes from the side I would call pseudo- or lifestyle-left. It has nothing to do with the early leftists, who were always critical of authority and government. The once-renowned Spiegel magazine, which I already mentioned in this thread, is the best example. It used to be critical of the government� now it's just a mouthpiece for them. Government criticism? For Trump? Of course, all labeled as Nazis. Great speech of JD Vance in Munich. I think the overcompensation problem in Germany has never been as extreme as it is today.
When it comes to crude jokes � check
out the Joke Corner of the Snobsoft BBS (use a translator or something). There are some pretty harsh jokes from the 1980s. Exactly � I have a lot of content in the BBS from 1985 onward. The jokes aren't always necessarily my type of humor � but it was good that people were allowed to make them � even about politicians. That should be a given in a democracy, nothing that needs to be a big discussion.
Of course, people got annoyed at other BBS users back then too, disagreed with their opinions. But afterward, they'd go have a beer together in real life. Today, you're often instantly treated as an enemy if you have the "wrong" opinion. It's terrible. Especially when it comes from the very people claiming to be "saving democracy." In reality, their suppression of dissenting opinions is the real threat to democracy.
They probably don't even understand the essence of democracy. Exactly � that means talking to one another, listening to different perspectives, thinking them over � and not canceling them.
