Subj : Re: Good Older Fantasy &
To   : Gamgee
From : Boraxman
Date : Sun May 11 2025 10:21 pm

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FJS> I've been getting into lots of older sci-fi stuff as of late (the old X
FJS> Minus One serials, Jules Verne, some older sci-fi anthologies I own
FJS> from the 70s and 80s (Machines That Think, edited by Isaac Asimov is
FJS> what got me into sci-fi!), but I'm itching for more good stuff. I do
FJS> have an older copy of the Foundation Trilogy I've been meaning to try
FJS> but I'm wondering if there's any other good sci-fi of the 50s-60s I
FJS> should keep an eye out for (I have half a mind to look for more sci-fi
FJS> pulp magazines, lol).

Ga> I have always considered the Foundation Trilogy to be the "gold
Ga> standard" of science fiction.  Doesn't get any better.  Read that
Ga> first. Be advised that there are 3-4 "sequel" books to that trilogy,
Ga> that are pretty much garbage.  Stick with the original three.

Bo> I only know of two sequel books, and a prequel or two.  I've read two
Bo> of the sequels, Foundations Edge and Foundation and Earth.  There is a
Bo> distinctly different tone and atmosphere, and both follow a different
Bo> story arc, with the second continuing from the first.  I think pretty
Bo> much every other Asimov book or story I've read, I rate higher than
Bo> these two. I have one of the prequels which I found at a second hand
Bo> bookstore and got out of curiosity, but my expectations are low.

Ga> Yes, that is correct now that I think about it.  I grouped the
Ga> additional books all as "sequels", but you're right - some were
Ga> "prequels".  All of them were disappointing, at least to me.

FJS> On the same note, I've completely neglected Fantasy. I have yet to find
FJS> ANY fantasy novels I like. A penpal sent me some ebooks of authors like
FJS> Anne McCaffery, Brandon Sanderson, E.E. Knight, etc. I had already had
FJS> some interest--having read some older short stories by Robert E. Howard
FJS> (I'd love some recommendationso f those if you have any). But I'm
FJS> mainly interested getting my hands on anything decent fantasy wise that
FJS> isn't anime or Skyrim, lol.

FJS> If anyone has any recommendations of either, I'm dying to know!

Ga> Well, again the "gold standard" (IMHO) of this genre is The Lord of the
Ga> Rings.  Three books, doesn't get any better.  Oh - there is a "prequel"
Ga> to these three called "The Hobbit", which should DEFINITELY be read
Ga> first.

Ga> That should keep you busy for a little while.  ;-)

Bo> My uncle lent me Lord of the Rings when I was 9 or so.  He was quite
Bo> the Tolkein
Bo> fan, but as far as I know, not into fantasy, just Tolkein.  I had
Bo> already read the Hobbit by then, and quite enjoyed it, but the size of
Bo> Lord of the Rings was daunting and the pace slower.  It sat on the back
Bo> burner and I didn't read it until much later in life.

Ga> You're not the only person who has done those books in that way.  ;-)

Bo>  It IS the gold
Bo> standard of fantasy, and set the template for many other fantasy works
Bo> later.  Tolkein was to fantasy what iD Software was to First Person
Bo> Shooters, but to be honest, that may be UNDER stating it.

Ga> As a former ID Software addict, I am 100% in agreement; and great
Ga> analogy!  ;-)


How did you get over the addiction?  I'm not recovered yet! In fact,
I'm making levels for Quake right now, hopefully will release a short
episode this year, inspired by Dante's Inferno.

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