Subj : Re: Most memorable modern
To   : Dumas Walker
From : Gamgee
Date : Sun Jun 08 2025 02:58 pm

-=> Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

>  DW> I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government
>  DW> would come up with.  IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could
>  DW> stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything
>  DW> on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of
>  DW> doing so.

> Absolutely right, but I agree that it's likely not possible.  What isn't
> right is to have people/taxpayers pay money to people who are
> generations removed from anybody who was mistreated.  "Correcting" a
> wrong by committing another wrong is not the way.

DW> Part of me feels that way, that they are generations removed.  However,
DW> there is some belief in this country that the "wrongs" continued far
DW> beyond the Civil War.  I would agree that they certainly continued
DW> until at least the Civil Rights Era of the 1960s.

Yes, it's true that discrimination continued long after the Civil War,
and to some extent is still happening today.  But again it's a problem
of who is to blame, and how to "correct" it.  Not something easy to
answer or solve.

DW> What has happened since then, until recently, I would place at the feet
DW> of our politicians (Democrats, too) who've spent their time benefiting
DW> from having a "downtrodden" class to manipulate... a class you cannot
DW> manipulate if they do not remain downtrodden.

100% correct.  It's like many of the bad things going on today... This,
wars, tradewars, cold wars, more.  There are always a small group of
people who benefit tremendously from these things, and although they say
otherwise, they WANT them to continue.  Race relations (as you said
above), and the RUS/UKR war are great examples.  Lots of money being
made by a few on both of these issues, and those people will not *LET*
the issues end.

DW> Recently, it seems that pre-1960s attitudes are being brought back into
DW> the mainstream.  Not sure what has brought that on but it does need to
DW> stop.

I'm not so sure that I'm seeing this happen, at least around here.



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