Subj : Re: Most memorable modern
To : Dumas Walker
From : Gamgee
Date : Sat Jun 07 2025 07:26 pm
-=> Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
> pF> Our current administration is actively removing tributes to
> pF> famous and successful African-Americans.
> Haven't heard about this one. Any examples that you could provide?
DW> Google "US renaming Tubman" to find something regarding the renaming of
DW> naval ships. IMHO, it was a little odd to name ships after civil
DW> rights leaders, social activists, and Supreme Court members who weren't
DW> in the Navy.
Agreed, very odd. Not acceptable, even.
DW> That isn't saying that some of them, like Tubman, don't have a very
DW> significant place in our country's history, as they do, but I think it
DW> was a little weird they named a ship after Ruth Bader Ginsberg to begin
DW> with. That said, it was done and I don't really support spending the
DW> time, effort, and money on changing these things.
Fully agree on the significance of Tubman, just not on the chosen method
of recognition. No way that RBG gets that honor, other than DEI. I'm
for changing both of those ship names. There are others, too - I
recently saw something about the USS Harvey Milk being considered for
re-naming also. Another 100% DEI thing, and should be un-done.
DW> They have also considered renaming a military base or two. Fort
DW> Cavazos, the former Ft Hood, is one that has been floated as up for a
DW> possible rename (back to Ft Hood). The person it was renamed after is
DW> a former military man -- a four star general -- so the name makes more
DW> sense. But, since he's hispanic (and Hood was CSA), having his name on
DW> it is "DEI."
Just another un-doing of a mistake by Biden and company. Like it or
not, the Civil War and the CSA are parts of our history.
> Also, is this like the previous administration removing all kinds of
> tributes/statues/memorials of famous and successful Southern-Americans
> from the Civil War era, because of what they stood for? Oh, and also
> like the renaming of military installations because they had
> "offensive" names?
DW> I didn't necessarily support the renaming of Ft. Hood but, now that it
DW> is done and (IMHO) it was renamed after someone deserving, I don't
DW> support changing it again. It was wasteful then and would be wasteful
DW> now.
Send the bill to Biden.
> pF> I'm not claiming reparations are the solution I'd choose, but the
> pF> problem persists.
> What solution *would* you choose, pray tell? How, exactly, can this
> problem be "fixed"?
DW> I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government
DW> would come up with. IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could
DW> stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything
DW> on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of
DW> doing so.
Absolutely right, but I agree that it's likely not possible. What isn't
right is to have people/taxpayers pay money to people who are
generations removed from anybody who was mistreated. "Correcting" a
wrong by committing another wrong is not the way.
